I guess you've never used FLCH or V/S:rolleyes:

ATC scolding a Cessna, started the conversation with " Cessna xxx, normally, when we give you a heading and an altitude, we like you to do that"
The tool started arguing why he didn't need to, because the controller was busy. Too bad we couldn't listen in on the follow-on phone conversation.

I was a FO on the 727 from Indy to DTW. The CA was trying to make his flight home. At 8000ft, doing 320 Kts, approach asked us our airspeed. I said 250. He said "Roger, slow to 170". The irony was, after we landed,we had to wait for our gate which turned out to be his flight home.

Yeah I do.... Your point:rolleyes:?

Whoa! V/S? There's no protection. NO PROTECTION!

My jet's to fast for that sh*t.... :p

Wow. I guess I'll spell out the obvious for you. The insinuation that you made that they were descending using FMC Speed. There are alternatives; perhaps they were using one of them and thusly exceeded 250kts below 10,000ft.

Is that clear now? :rolleyes:

Gee PC... I don't how to thank you:rolleyes:. After 27 years of FMC Speed and MCP Speed, now its all clear to me!:eek:

Gosh I'll remember not to fiddle with the default 240/10000 thing on either the Cimb or Descent pages unless non U.S. ATCs assign free speed or requests high speed below ten.

There's the possibility the crew used the default setting of 240/10,000 or 250/10,000 selected on the Descent Page while using V/S resulting in the loss of Speed Protection.

Since you hadn't figured it our about my post on the matter, PotatoChip, I was invoking a bit of sarcasm. Read the definition SPELLED out for you.

Sarcasm. 1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain. 2a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individualb : the use or language of sarcasm.

All the best and Happy New Year!

Ok. I didn't get your joke. My bad. It's a recurring problem I am having looked into.

Probably not an exact fit for TOTD, but I dunno where else to put it.

Day before yesterday at DCA, I'm in cockpit getting ready to go when I hear a loud crash/bang noise. I look up and about 50 yards in front of me is a baggage cart tilting down in front (with associated scattered bags on the ground) because it has no front wheels anymore. I then see the tractor that had been pulling it still going at full speed heading for my aircraft with only the front cart axle still attached with associated pieces of undercarriage dragging behind creating a shower of sparks. How the hell I could hear that in the cockpit with an APU running and he couldn't I don't know. Eager to see the look on the guys face when he stops at the cargo hold, I jumped out of my seat, yelled for the FA to look and got my head out the main cabin door. There he stood, arms down at his side, facing where the cart should have been but finding only the front axle and part of the undercarriage. The confused look on his face was priceless. If it makes me a tool for laughing hysterically at him (or him for not checking on a loud bang RIGHT BEHIND HIM) then I'll just nominate myself for TOTD. We also got to send an ACARS msg. noting that we were late due to: "catastrophic structural failure of the baggage cart and ensuing hilarity".