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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2181170)
This being a pilot forum, I just knew someone would do the math and point out that it didn't sum to 100% 😉 And it only took 2 posts!
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
(Post 2180956)
When a pilot pops his head in and says "hey guys I'm bob with xyz, they gave me a seat in back, here's my ID and the captain copy slip" are you guys really saying "Whoah Whoah Whoah ice man let me see your medical and atp"? For the record I always have it ready to go but in my experience this has been like 1/100.
2. It's a professional courtesy to have it handy. 3. The CA is supposed to be mentoring his/her FO. Great opportunity for the CA to show some class and handle this introduction and interaction the right way. The CA may only look at it for a second. But that checks the box. Security is still a big deal, so expect some Captains to ask a few questions about your airplane and/or operation/domicile. |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2181207)
1. It's required by every 121 operator that I know of.
2. It's a professional courtesy to have it handy. 3. The CA is supposed to be mentoring his/her FO. Great opportunity for the CA to show some class and handle this introduction and interaction the right way. The CA may only look at it for a second. But that checks the box. Security is still a big deal, so expect some Captains to ask a few questions about your airplane and/or operation/domicile. I am over being lectured on this issue. It says specifically in our FOM that jumpseat riders flowing back to the cabin are not required to provide credentials to the PIC. You might review yours as well. And if you are the guy quizzing a commuter about his job/aircraft/whatever to "prove he is really a pilot" that is just plain wrong. |
I just came home from a trip, am drinking a glass of wine and am laughing heartily as I read some of these posts. Some of you guys have a good sense of humor. :)
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
(Post 2181227)
I am over being lectured on this issue. It says specifically in our FOM that jumpseat riders flowing back to the cabin are not required to provide credentials to the PIC. You might review yours as well. And if you are the guy quizzing a commuter about his job/aircraft/whatever to "prove he is really a pilot" that is just plain wrong.
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Originally Posted by 680crewchief
(Post 2181329)
+1... FOM is most restrictive, so I imagine some airlines require it and some don't. Spirit does not (until they change the FOM again).
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Our SOP is a bit vague and may contradict itself as to whether a cabin jumpseater needs all the paperwork. SOP is clear that they do need to check in with the CA.
I don't check the docs for a cabin jumpseater because I don't think anyone cares, and the SOP probably did not intend that. But I wouldn't blame someone who felt the need to dot i's and cross t's either. When I get a 135 pilot I do check our reciprocal list, because half the time they're not on it. While I might let such a person in the cabin, no way are they sitting in the actual. It pizzes me off that they even ask because they know darn well whether they have an agreement with us, and they should know I could get fired for letting a random non-authorized person in the cockpit. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2181490)
When I get a 135 pilot I do check our reciprocal list, because half the time they're not on it. While I might let such a person in the cabin, no way are they sitting in the actual. It pizzes me off that they even ask because they know darn well whether they have an agreement with us, and they should know I could get fired for letting a random non-authorized person in the cockpit. I believe a reciprocal isn't FAA related. If they are in CASS then it is up to your airlines individual practices (and you). |
Another nominee for TOTD: the FO who left his seat jacked all the way up and forward (if you've ever tried to squeeze into a CRJ, you'll know how annoying that is), with a full trash bag draped on the armrest and a sticky, leaking, extra-large soda cup in the cupholder.
And of course the ACARS printer is out of paper (it's traditionally an FO responsibility to replace the paper when it runs out)...plus the FO skipped the post flight, which was instantly obvious because not just one, but FOUR of the external security seals (an FO responsibility at my airline) are nowhere to be seen on the airframe. Seriously? Where do we get these people? |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2181895)
Another nominee for TOTD: the FO who left his seat jacked all the way up and forward (if you've ever tried to squeeze into a CRJ, you'll know how annoying that is), with a full trash bag draped on the armrest and a sticky, leaking, extra-large soda cup in the cupholder.
And of course the ACARS printer is out of paper (it's traditionally an FO responsibility to replace the paper when it runs out)...plus the FO skipped the post flight, which was instantly obvious because not just one, but FOUR of the external security seals (an FO responsibility at my airline) are nowhere to be seen on the airframe. Seriously? Where do we get these people? |
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