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Klondike Bear 08-16-2016 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2181895)
Another nominee for TOTD: the FO who left his seat jacked all the way up and forward (if you've ever tried to squeeze into a CRJ, you'll know how annoying that is), with a full trash bag draped on the armrest and a sticky, leaking, extra-large soda cup in the cupholder.

And of course the ACARS printer is out of paper (it's traditionally an FO responsibility to replace the paper when it runs out)...plus the FO skipped the post flight, which was instantly obvious because not just one, but FOUR of the external security seals (an FO responsibility at my airline) are nowhere to be seen on the airframe.

Seriously? Where do we get these people?

Bet it was an LCA giving a captain upgrade.

Turbosina 08-16-2016 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2181943)
Bet it was an LCA giving a captain upgrade.

LOL...

Actually it was a brand-new FO (I checked the can, saw his employee number.) That said, some of the most inconsiderate FOs in terms of flight deck cleanliness have been super senior guys who could've upgraded 5 or 6 years ago. (You can tell by the employee number.)

deadseal 08-16-2016 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2181928)
Sign of the times.....

Said every old man since the dawn of time. Nice one

captjns 08-17-2016 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2181895)
Another nominee for TOTD: the FO who left his seat jacked all the way up and forward (if you've ever tried to squeeze into a CRJ, you'll know how annoying that is), with a full trash bag draped on the armrest and a sticky, leaking, extra-large soda cup in the cupholder.

And of course the ACARS printer is out of paper (it's traditionally an FO responsibility to replace the paper when it runs out)...plus the FO skipped the post flight, which was instantly obvious because not just one, but FOUR of the external security seals (an FO responsibility at my airline) are nowhere to be seen on the airframe.

Seriously? Where do we get these people?

Give your colleague a call, send and email, or drop a note in their "V" File, and politely remind him/her of proper cockpit etiquette. There has been many a time when I met the inbound crew as they were getting off the jet, discovering the same situation. Politely called them back to the jet to collect their rubbish. Never had any issues and was given an apology.

maddogmax 08-17-2016 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2182086)
Give your colleague a call, send and email, or drop a note in their "V" File, and politely remind him/her of proper cockpit etiquette. There has been many a time when I met the inbound crew as they were getting off the jet, discovering the same situation. Politely called them back to the jet to collect their rubbish. Never had any issues and was given an apology.

Better yet, take the trash bag and stuff it in his v-file with a note saying " You left this on the airplane, figured you must want it"

WesternSkies 08-17-2016 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2181895)

And of course the ACARS printer is out of paper (it's traditionally an FO responsibility to replace the paper when it runs out)...plus the FO skipped the post flight, which was instantly obvious because not just one, but FOUR of the external security seals (an FO responsibility at my airline) are nowhere to be seen on the airframe

What airport? Bet the GSC was clueless again.

freezingflyboy 08-17-2016 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 2182101)
Better yet, take the trash bag and stuff it in his v-file with a note saying " You left this on the airplane, figured you must want it"

Ha! I did that once when the FO I took the plane from left a cup full of sucked on pistachio shells in the cup holder. Left the cup and a nasty-gram in the v-file of the offending pilot. I doubt it solved the problem but it was very gratifying. Would have loved to see their face when s/he opened up that little surprise!

AncientAliens 08-17-2016 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2182044)
Said every old man since the dawn of time. Nice one

Seriously, I'd love to go back in time to hear what you old timers parents were saying about your generation in the 60s and 70s.

goinaround 08-17-2016 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2182044)
Said every old man since the dawn of time. Nice one

Mostly referencing the regional carriers grabbing anybody and everybody that can meet their mins. There's some real winners out there....

freezingflyboy 08-17-2016 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2182337)
Mostly referencing the regional carriers grabbing anybody and everybody that can meet their mins. There's some real winners out there....

As a guy recently removed from the left seat at a regional, I can tell you that I noticed a marked decline in the quality of pilots occupying the right seat over the last 5 years. There were quite a few military guys just treading water, getting some 121 stink on 'em and waiting for the big boys to call. The vast, overwhelming majority were great to fly with. But there were a few who, after flying C-17s to every backwater on earth (respect!) or flying AC-130 gunships in the dark over Afghanistan (mad respect!) seemed to view the whole RJ thing as beneath them or seemed to chafe under the whole airline seniority thing. And of the civvies coming up, most were good too. In both groups however, there were more than a few that ran the gambit from requiring a little extra "mentoring" all the way up to just shake your head and mumble to yourself or the FA "What is this guy's DEAL!? Is it day four yet?!"

However, that could just be my slow transition to being an "old guy" showing.


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