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Old 07-19-2017, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorHog View Post
Yeah, you're probably right. Scientists couldn't have possibly figured out with any degree of certainty that CO2 affects the atmosphere and, as a result, the climate. Oh, wait. They have. Just one example is cited below...unless you want to tell all of those idiots at NASA that they're wrong. All those engineers and rocket scientists are pretty dumb.

So, assuming you're willing to graciously admit that CO2 can affect the climate, take the following into consideration: there are 7+ BILLION people in the world; they have 1+ BILLION working automobiles, and every single one produces 4.7 metric TONS of CO2 every year; the vast number of military and civilian jets in the world that fly every single day; the tens of thousands of factories in the world; and the reduction in CO2-absorbing trees and plants from the growth and spread of the population. With all of that, uh, yeah, it's very easy to see how the global population of earth could affect the atmosphere and, by result, the climate.

I doubt any of that will make you change your mind, though. Because you don't want to. No amount of evidence in the world can make someone believe something they simply don't want to believe. They'll simply discount the evidence, no matter how strong or numerous, or discount the source of the evidence as biased, even if it's very clear and likely that it's not.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fe...ycle/page5.php
World Population Clock: 7.5 Billion People (2017) - Worldometers
World Vehicle Population Tops 1 Billion Units | News & Analysis content from WardsAuto
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/gr...nger-vehicle-0
Super- Lets talk about reversal. What efforts can we take besides a meaningless Paris Climate Agreement where most of the world wont do jack$hit about their contribution to the problem and we make all the sacrifices? Also, what level of CO2 output would markedly reverse the trend?
I havent seen any data in this arena, but would be interested if you could pm me or post those numbers. This is a serious inquiry because I have failed to locate any of that info.
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Old 07-19-2017, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
Super- Lets talk about reversal. What efforts can we take besides a meaningless Paris Climate Agreement where most of the world wont do jack$hit about their contribution to the problem and we make all the sacrifices? Also, what level of CO2 output would markedly reverse the trend?
I havent seen any data in this arena, but would be interested if you could pm me or post those numbers. This is a serious inquiry because I have failed to locate any of that info.
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Great question. And if I knew the answer I wouldn't be a pilot. I agree that stuff like the Paris Climate Accord is way more about politicians congratulating themselves than actually getting a thing done.

I thought this article was interesting, although its but one single source of info and I'm just putting it here as one anecdotal answer to your question ...it uses 450 ppm as a generally accepted benchmark that we need to not rise above.

https://www.climatecommunication.org...tialaction.pdf

Excerpt: "In order to stabilize CO2 concentrations at about 450 ppm by 2050, global emissions would have to decline by about 60% by 2050. Industrialized countries greenhouse gas emissions would have to decline by about 80% by 2050."
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Old 07-19-2017, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorHog View Post
Great question. And if I knew the answer I wouldn't be a pilot. I agree that stuff like the Paris Climate Accord is way more about politicians congratulating themselves than actually getting a thing done.

I thought this article was interesting, although its but one single source of info and I'm just putting it here as one anecdotal answer to your question ...it uses 450 ppm as a generally accepted benchmark that we need to not rise above.

https://www.climatecommunication.org...tialaction.pdf

Excerpt: "In order to stabilize CO2 concentrations at about 450 ppm by 2050, global emissions would have to decline by about 60% by 2050. Industrialized countries greenhouse gas emissions would have to decline by about 80% by 2050."
Thanks Gator- at least they came up with a measurable level. I doubt this planet is capable of a 30% reduction let alone 80%.
We can't even harness the sun efficiently. Nuclear is about the only thing we get "right".
The Earth has been known to fluctuate throughout its life, so we'll see.
The endless bickering does get old😑
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:32 PM
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What an appropriate place to have this conversation.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21 View Post
What an appropriate place to have this conversation.
952 pages into a good TOTD thread and it'll get shut down cause of a couple T'sOTD.

Don't screw up a good thing over climate (un)change.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:51 PM
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952 pages into a good TOTD thread and it'll get shut down cause of a couple T'sOTD.

Don't screw up a good thing over climate (un)change.
Yea- so much was being solved before this offshoot👌🏻.
Valium guys- you'll love it.
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:43 PM
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I blame Anne coulter and her rant. That much hot air must have had some impact on the atmosphere. Maybe if we harness the power of her whining like a 16 year old we could solve world hunger. Or just collectively make her ride the bus for the rest of her life

Could you imagine if the airlines started a blacklist? People would straighten up and act with some semblance of respect
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:20 PM
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This used to be a fun thread....


(PS: we're all gonna die, and the earth will eventually become a roasted cinder. So, enough already!)
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Old 07-20-2017, 03:49 AM
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I have my Climate Change/Global Warming prepper kit (cooler chest filled with ice and beers) ready to implement at a momentís notice!

I tend to conduct many unannounced/unplanned emergency preparedness drills in my backyard and thus; I am always prepared, always hydrated, and always happy.

Peace out.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:42 AM
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Jeebus, some of you guys could screw up an erotic dream!

Climate change/global warming/politics/religion?! Give it a rest and have some fun while blowing off some steam!
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