Mass Murder in Aurora
07-20-2012 | 11:10 AM
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Good discussion and what many would feel to be rightful sentiments, but when the topic starts to turn towards sensitive issues (and we all know what is likely to be a hot topic in the coming days), let's remember that TOS regarding politically motivated posts. Thanks.
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07-20-2012 | 11:10 AM
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I think you misread my quote... I was saying that the chance of becoming another victim was pretty high. And helmets don't necessarily have to be bullet proof - they are rounded to reduce penetration.
And the cops arrived on scene to see the gunman standing at his car, essentially waiting to be arrested (according to the most recent reports) - we can not rely on cops to defend ourselves.
And the cops arrived on scene to see the gunman standing at his car, essentially waiting to be arrested (according to the most recent reports) - we can not rely on cops to defend ourselves.
In the end there is no way to say what could have happened. We are only learning what happened and how to better prepare ourselves if this ever happened again.
-UA
07-20-2012 | 11:24 AM
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I was actually agreeing with you. Average shooter probably can't make that shot in well lit range scenario. Very difficult in actual situation. Extremely difficult in dark theatre with mass chaos. The reason I said slow him down is that we really don't know how he would have reacted if the bullets started flying at him. He may have well retreated or he may have turned that AK right at you and that could be that.
In the end there is no way to say what could have happened. We are only learning what happened and how to better prepare ourselves if this ever happened again.
-UA
In the end there is no way to say what could have happened. We are only learning what happened and how to better prepare ourselves if this ever happened again.
-UA
07-20-2012 | 11:27 AM
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Did he have a AR or AK?
07-20-2012 | 11:32 AM
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How can you folks be sure, at this point, that no one else in the theatre had a weapon? Also, in chaos, I think a patron with a gun would have had a slim chance at hitting the shooter in the dark with tear gas floating. I don't buy that allowing guns into a movie legally would have prevented this. It's a poor argument for looser ccw laws.
This is coming from a gun owner.
This is coming from a gun owner.
07-20-2012 | 11:32 AM
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To those who think guns should be prohibited...
Look what happened in Norway not too long ago. Man kills a hundred kids in a nation that outlaws firearms. The point is, crazies like this one will get their hands on weapons to do harm to others no matter what the laws are. Concealed carry permits at least make a lot of criminals think twice and protect the law-abiding citizens of this nation.
And I don't believe they will ever take our firearms away. I don't believe they can at this point. There would be a real-deal revolution if they tried.
Look what happened in Norway not too long ago. Man kills a hundred kids in a nation that outlaws firearms. The point is, crazies like this one will get their hands on weapons to do harm to others no matter what the laws are. Concealed carry permits at least make a lot of criminals think twice and protect the law-abiding citizens of this nation.
And I don't believe they will ever take our firearms away. I don't believe they can at this point. There would be a real-deal revolution if they tried.
07-20-2012 | 11:41 AM
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To those who think guns should be prohibited...
Look what happened in Norway not too long ago. Man kills a hundred kids in a nation that outlaws firearms. The point is, crazies like this one will get their hands on weapons to do harm to others no matter what the laws are. Concealed carry permits at least make a lot of criminals think twice and protect the law-abiding citizens of this nation.
And I don't believe they will ever take our firearms away. I don't believe they can at this point. There would be a real-deal revolution if they tried.
Look what happened in Norway not too long ago. Man kills a hundred kids in a nation that outlaws firearms. The point is, crazies like this one will get their hands on weapons to do harm to others no matter what the laws are. Concealed carry permits at least make a lot of criminals think twice and protect the law-abiding citizens of this nation.
And I don't believe they will ever take our firearms away. I don't believe they can at this point. There would be a real-deal revolution if they tried.
07-20-2012 | 11:54 AM
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The best deterrent is avoidance, awareness and understanding your current situation. Sometimes all of our careful actions fail. This then becomes a reaction, long past the point of deterrence. Guns offer no deterrence at all to people who cannot see them.
It is also difficult to prepare for stark raving insanity.
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