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mike734 12-11-2014 07:17 PM

Next time you have a FED in the jumpseat be sure and sip on some coffee while you taxi for takeoff. I do this almost every time and have only been called on it once. The FED "cleared his throat" and looked at the cup. I told him I had a physiological need to take a sip at that moment. I didn't hear about it again.

I'm sure that a gopro set up in cruise would not violate any FAR but might be a violation of company policy and against the wishes of your partner. There isn't much upside in doing it. I do like my circling to land in JNU video though.

NovemberBravo 12-11-2014 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Caution Terrain (Post 1781313)
I regularly see check-ins from the penalty box. Careful folks!

You don't actually have to be there to check in there.

NovemberBravo 12-11-2014 07:29 PM

Careful reading the comments under the story on the authors page... Fair warning.

TheFly 12-11-2014 07:32 PM

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...stagram-8.html

Already a thread on this.

TheFly 12-11-2014 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 1781383)
Eveybody needs to email his employer.

Post email.

MartinC08 12-11-2014 07:43 PM

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Filled

RV5M 12-11-2014 07:52 PM

Awesome comments on the FB page. Not a single intelligent thought. Just hate and cocks. Hilarious.

FaceBiten 12-11-2014 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by jmcke (Post 1781483)
The writer

Oh that's how I took it too since you said you work at xjt and would like to be the one to fire him. Disregard my comment if it's the writer you were referring to.

biigD 12-11-2014 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by ILOVELAMP (Post 1781429)
I seriously don't see what's wrong with taking pictures in the cockpit as long as it is not causing a problem.

My company's manual forbids it (assuming the picture was taken with a PED). Now I won't confirm nor deny that I've ever broken this rule, but I'm sure as hell not dumb enough to post photos on social media showing me breaking it. :)

JetPilot6589 12-11-2014 08:34 PM

Nice blog that I found covering the legality of selfies and camera usage. The writer writes for Flying as well...

http://fl250.blogspot.com/2014/06/no...lfies.html?m=1

Auzzie 12-11-2014 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1781498)
That's like blaming the guy who pulled the fire alarm box for the fire. YOU jokers did this to yourselves. Zero sympathy for you when the Feds come a knockin'.

http://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM

Hetman 12-11-2014 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by jmcke (Post 1781482)
I don't mean to set a negative vibe to me our my company. That guy has no right to release the names of the pilots

They released their own names. All the reporter did was collect what people deliberately and voluntarily put into the public domain, having deliberately and voluntarily attached their names thereto.

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=tdbORXEmbnk

mike734 12-11-2014 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by JetPilot6589 (Post 1781539)
Nice blog that I found covering the legality of selfies and camera usage. The writer writes for Flying as well...

Taking Wing: No More Inflight Selfies?

I don't think any of us have anything to worry about. But the first guy who dents some metal and was texting at the same time, could be a problem.

JetPilot6589 12-11-2014 10:21 PM

Agreed. My stuff will stay locked as a precaution

Hetman 12-11-2014 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 1781523)
...I'm sure as hell not dumb enough to post photos on social media ... :)

Whaaatt??? You don't have a hot, burning desire to share your awesomeness with the world???

Communist! Heretic!! Heathen!!!

Ar Pilot 12-12-2014 05:18 AM

Funny, none of the Euro or middle eastern guys who do this stuff have taken anything down. I'm sure they're just as strict.

And a big X2 to the guy who said it helps inspire younger people to get into flying. Some of these guys are very creative and take some great shots. I don't see how having a GoPro set up to take automatic pics while you're below sterile is a big deal.

PilotGuy77 12-12-2014 05:23 AM

Hey you know those free email signups for newsletters, bibles and stuff! Yup the author should not post his email address.... Merry Christmas! LMAO
......Oh, ok, I did not do it but man do I want to!!!!

Ar Pilot 12-12-2014 05:26 AM

Just do it. Also some he might want a few porn site subscriptions. Or craigslists ads with his number and email in the casual encounters section

pilotRC7 12-12-2014 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by DJPILOT (Post 1781490)
Just Google the Guy's Name and Found This... enjoy...


START YOUR MEME'S !!!!


http://origincache-frc.fbcdn.net/194...92188459_n.jpg

Why the hell do you need to wear headphones in the lav?

minimwage4 12-12-2014 05:50 AM

Yea it's all hypocrisy. Don't be a tool and post your selfies. Nobody cares about you being a pilot with the exception of your riddle buddies. Save them for your personal ego stroking collection to be viewed privately.

Rolf 12-12-2014 06:19 AM

They look like the were taken with a 35mm camera. Everyone knows, pilots are too cheap to buy one of them newfangled camera phones

flybywire44 12-12-2014 06:26 AM

David Panofsky take likes Lav Selfies #LMTAS

http://s11.postimg.org/byon9k8j7/David_Yanofsky.jpg

flybywire44 12-12-2014 06:28 AM

David Panofsky take Lav Selfies #LMTAS

http://s11.postimg.org/byon9k8j7/David_Yanofsky.jpg

AxlF16 12-12-2014 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 1781563)
I don't think any of us have anything to worry about. But the first guy who dents some metal and was texting at the same time, could be a problem.

Ya think?

Not directed at you, but I'm going to throw out some good advice here...

If you can't stop yourself from being a dumbass, from violating FARs, or from violating your companies policies - at least don't post the evidence in the public domain:confused:

Strike that - post away and get culled from the herd:D. Darwinism works!

AxlF16 12-12-2014 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiten (Post 1781347)
How many crashes or incidents have resulted from taking in flight photos? That's what I thought. You and David Yankoffsky should hang out.

Let me know how this conversation works out for you if you ever interview for pilot job with an airline.

tom11011 12-12-2014 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 1781690)
Ya think?

Not directed at you, but I'm going to throw out some good advice here...

If you can't stop yourself from being a dumbass, from violating FARs, or from violating your companies policies - at least don't post the evidence in the public domain:confused:

Strike that - post away and get culled from the herd:D. Darwinism works!

It is unbelievable isn't it? Then these pilots want to go attack the guy on his website. People better hope this doesn't get picked up by Wolf B..... from CNN. It would not surprise me to see the feds get out ahead of this with violations so the faa doesn't look like dumbasses when the real media picks this up. There is no way this story is just going to fade away. It might seem that way but the next time a little plane burns one in, its going to come up.

FaceBiten 12-12-2014 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 1781693)
Let me know how this conversation works out for you if you ever interview for pilot job with an airline.

Yeah I am sure in flight photos and APC posts are the first topics of conversation in an interview. But I'll be sure and let you know how it goes. But first, let me take a selfie.

awax 12-12-2014 07:23 AM

Any one of us can have a bad day at work, where despite our best efforts, our jobs could be placed at risk (there but for the grace of God go I?).

However, the linked photos are from pilots who opted-in to broadcasting that they (potentially) violate FARs. This was a 100% voluntary effort, and 100% preventable. Any heat those guys take is self-inflicted, it sucks, but they did it to themselves.

It takes lots of hard work and dedication to earn the credentials to fly for a living, but when you finally get a line number and big watch, being a narcissistic tool may not be the answer.

Rogdixon 12-12-2014 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1781498)
That's like blaming the guy who pulled the fire alarm box for the fire. YOU jokers did this to yourselves. Zero sympathy for you when the Feds come a knockin'.


https://sistasertraline.files.wordpr...who-knocks.jpg

AxlF16 12-12-2014 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiten (Post 1781704)
Yeah I am sure in flight photos and APC posts are the first topics of conversation in an interview. But I'll be sure and let you know how it goes. But first, let me take a selfie.

Are you really this obtuse? When you apply to college - the admission staff looks at any social media sites they can find you on; when you apply for a job - your potential employer will probably look at any social media sites they can find you on; etc... Hell, most will require you to list the social media sites you use!

BoilerUP 12-12-2014 07:33 AM

FAA ASIs have better things to do than troll social media looking for photos taken in flight and uploaded to Instagram.

FaceBiten 12-12-2014 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 1781718)
Are you really this obtuse? When you apply to college - the admission staff looks at any social media sites they can find you on; when you apply for a job - your potential employer will probably look at any social media sites they can find you on; etc... Hell, most will require you to list the social media sites you use!

Precisely why I don't have social media, and I'm certainly not dumb enough to post any self incriminating pictures. This article is still tantamount to sitting on the street, taking video of people texting and driving, and contacting the police, news, and their employers about it. Vigilante justice by a pimply faced jealous wannabe, who takes selfies of himself in a CRJ lav. Carry on.

AxlF16 12-12-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiten (Post 1781730)
Precisely why I don't have social media, and I'm certainly not dumb enough to post any self incriminating pictures. This article is still tantamount to sitting on the street, taking video of people texting and driving, and contacting the police, news, and their employers about it. Vigilante justice by a pimply faced jealous wannabe, who takes selfies of himself in a CRJ lav. Carry on.

Well then best of luck to you...you seem to have this sh!t all locked up!

Could you please write some papers espousing your safety theories as well? We're all really tired of the restrictions on doing things that haven't caused us to crash before.

tom11011 12-12-2014 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 1781722)
FAA ASIs have better things to do than troll social media looking for photos taken in flight and uploaded to Instagram.

Yeah except when a violation of Federal law is reported they are required to investigate. There's just that one little annoying tidbit.

Beech90 12-12-2014 08:32 AM

It's on Yahoos home page.

https://www.yahoo.com

gold 12-12-2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1781738)
Yeah except when a violation of Federal law is reported they are required to investigate. There's just that one little annoying tidbit.

For someone that appears to Not be an airline pilot, you sure post a lot. Are you the media?

atooraya 12-12-2014 09:07 AM

I'm all for **** talking and trolling but you guys sound like a bunch of immature twats when you post stuff like he has a small penis, or the ridiculous memes......just saying....

TheWrightStuff 12-12-2014 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 1781805)
I'm all for **** talking and trolling but you guys sound like a bunch of immature twats when you post stuff like he has a small penis, or the ridiculous memes......just saying....

Well, someone was going to say that anyway. By the way, it's a 50/50 shot that he has a small penis.

saturn 12-12-2014 09:51 AM

Confession:

I got something out of my flight bag once. It took attention away from monitoring for several seconds. I've often been so engrossed pulling out, filing through pages and reading FAA mandated charts that I've had to say, "say again.." or ask "what fix did he give us"? I've also missed as a crew radio calls for funny jokes and interesting conversations. I've done a puzzle or game, ate some food, fixated on scenery out the window, read a thing, made non-critical banter below 10k. I don't know if I've flown with anyone who can't say the same.

Let any required and non required duty be be done with wisdom, prudentcy and situational awareness. This is what prevents actions from becoming a safety issue, not some arbitrary regulation. Reading the release is probably more distracting than snapping a picture (head up vs head down), though both may not be appropriate at a given phase. And if it can be managed, look back and forth ever so often and scan and cross-check.

As it relates to taking a picture, it can take all but a few seconds, and you can also stop midway and do a scan of the instruments, and back to the camera. Essentially it is the exact same thing as staring at something out the window for a few seconds, you're just viewing it through a screen and hitting a button. PEDs have a stigma, probably because of how it relates to driving. Viewing photons emitted from a PED is always reckless but viewing photons reflected from a city, sunset, mountain, piece of paper can be properly managed. Its perception, not reality. Be smart with with what-when-how you do anything in the flight deck, and for love, be smart about social media.

tom11011 12-12-2014 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1781791)
For someone that appears to Not be an airline pilot, you sure post a lot. Are you the media?

Yes I am.....filler


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