ShyGuy

Did you not read my post? I said they aren't religiously motivated, but are crazy nutjobs who blast innocent people away with guns.

So. 30+ college kids dead in VT with one shooter, and then 30ish elementary school children and teachers with another shooter in Sandy Hook.

These aren't ISIS/terrorists. That's why people just point fingers, say it was a mentally sick guy, and don't come after my guns! And then there's a run on gun purchases due to a fear Obama would clamp down with gun laws.


That's our reaction to someone using a gun to slaughter US citizens in the United States by the dozens.

But now that 7 terrorists in Paris killed 130 by gunning then down, with religious motivations, now suddenly you care and are concerned?

What about all these mass shootings by the so called "mentally ill" people? I see finger pointing at the lack of mental health care. The next thing I hear is the NRA saying leave our guns alone. And nothing changes.

Now people want a full invasion of Iraq/Syria and an all out war against ISIS for a gun crime. The same kind of gun crime that happens here anyway, but apparently, bullet-riddled dead bodies are somehow different when a brown Muslim pulls the trigger, and not the same when an American "mentally sick" individual does the same.


And please don't start the beheading and sharia law argument when our beloved ally Saudia Arabia leads the world in beheadings and Sharia Law implementation and interpretation. Saudi makes ISIS's Sunni dream world look like child's play. But you'll never see that in the media here.

Adlerdriver

"Gun crime"? Y G B S M !!

What a simplistic comparison. There's a big difference between an attack motivated by jihadist warfare on a global scale with the ultimate goal of annihilating everyone who isn't a "believer" and a few disturbed individuals killing innocents for various reasons.

jungle

No such thing as gun crime or gun violence. Objects are incapable of criminal or violent acts.

There are lots of violent humans though. They should be rounded up and controlled or dealt with on the spot.

FDXLAG

Oh and the V Tech guy wasn't white you racist.

Fluglehrer

Shy Guy (loose translation): We don't start WWIII when mentally ill people commit mass murder, so why should we when sane people commit mass murder?

ATPWannabe (looser translation): Well said! And if we just listened to the muslim terrorists, we would know that they aren't getting the jobs they think they should have, and we aren't exercising the foreign policy they think we should, so if we don't change and do what they say then we deserve mass murder!

...reminds me of another eloquent spokesperson: "the mind is a terrible thing, and it must be stopped in our lifetime, before it kills somebody" (about 5:05 in the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BerJdS2VJhA

Fluglehrer

Adlerdriver, you are showing your age. Logic is old fashioned, classist (therefore unfair and probably reeks of white privilege), and will never let you be one of the cool kids. You really should stop using it. If you were young you'd never get a good job or a desirable date with that kind of attitude.

ShyGuy

They were all French and Belgian citizens. Not Iraqi/Syrian ISIS citizens. Global scale? You'll never see these idiots and their attackers in many places in the world, primarily those countries that never bombed them in the first place. Annihilate everyone and take over the world? Keep up watching the Fox News network. Iraq/Syria's Sunni dream world will be landlocked. On the east, the most powerful Sunni nation in the world Iran. Up top, NATO Turkey and all the goodies that come with being NATO. On the west side, the Israeli defenders (Israel itself, Jordan), and down south Saido Arabia which is a Sunni majority but ruled by a royal family who is interested only in keeping their own power and of course being friendly to the west. Every player surrounding Iraq/Syria has their best interest to keep what eventually will become ISIS as a landlocked place that is stuck without an ability to expand. The Shia majority Iran will kill any aggressor, as would Israel of they felt threatened from ISIS.

So no, there is no "global Islamic caliphate" coming (did I get the Faux Newa terminology right?).

What happened in Paris with Frenech and Belgian citizens attacking their own French citizens, is a domestic problem, even if motivation fueled by a political terrorist motivation.

If you want fact and logic:

You are more likely to die at the hands of a typical US mass shooter than a terrorist on US soil.

ShyGuy

If there's something I've learned about most pilots is that they are completely clueless on Middle Eastern studies.

ShyGuy

Who said sane people commit mass murder? The Paris attackers had many loose screws. Any person that can just indiscriminately kill other human beings clearly has screws loose in the head and no respect for human life. I question the sanity of these shooters. They aren't wired like the rest of mankind, no matter which sky fairy you end up worshipping.

badflaps

Some where down the line the young guys are going to wonder why the old guys are not blowing themselves up.