Time to Jump ship from Hawaiian?
03-16-2019 | 02:32 PM
#181
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Were you around during the merger talks with AQ. After the books were open (AQ was a private company) and Hal saw our game plane they pulled out and did exactly what AQ had planned. Many HAL pilots picketed to stop the merger and were pretty mean if you got one trying to JS. Also after AQ shut down Victory flags appeared, so don’t tell us about beating chests, because after 20 years I had to start over so you’re preaching to the wrong guy. Go back in time and look in the mirror.
I know BOTH carriers can co exist so chill out. Cheers
I know BOTH carriers can co exist so chill out. Cheers
Fact check contd.
I was working that day and didn't see or hear anything about a "victory" flag.
One documented case of a 2%er at HAL giving an AQ guy a hard time about the jumpseat.
Anti-merger sentiment was a clear-eyed look at the economics of AQ and knowing that a merger would have resulted in economic failure and everyone getting stapled somewhere. Even with $20million ASTB stabilization loan, AQ lost, what was it, $40 million? Still running 737-200s from the early '70s and hoping their competitor goes out of business wasn't working... We'd all have been career FOs, instead now the former AQ people are widebody captains at HAL, welcomed with open arms in 2008. Go figure.
03-16-2019 | 04:00 PM
#184
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My pilots LUV me!
They LUV me so much they come on here just for me! It feels soooo good. We LUV talking about Hawaii and how we’re going to buy Hawaiian Airlines in 6 months. The Southwest effect is real. Ooh I LUV reading these comments. Keep at it fellas! You tell em! You’re sooo good and smart...just save room for all those muffins from the hotel in Waikiki!
03-16-2019 | 04:56 PM
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Disagree. When a picture like that is seen, it’ll spark some angst in anyone who’s the small fish. I have to back up Kingair here because I have mouths to feed as I would imagine he does, too. While I hope it turns out a David vs Goliath situation we all know the possibilities both good and bad. If that particular thinking isn’t shared by the pilot group then shame on the management team for putting it up, it’s trashy and tasteless at best. If you don’t want an immature fight then don’t start one. I can also tell you with certainty that would never be placed on HAL property whether we were a 15,000 pilot group out to get everyone or the 800 pilot group with a niche that we are. Take it for what it is and I appreciate you not being a part of the problem, but to follow in KinAirs footsteps.... You started it.
If you and your boys wanna start a war over a wall ornament, then have at it. I will continue to welcome the HAL jumpers on our flights anytime any day.
I was hired into the next class with you guys three weeks before 9-11 hit. I wanted nothing more than to be part of the HAL life, but it wasn't meant to be. You guys offer a superior product for sure, but to hear King Air say your pax are of a higher grade is downright comical. Having lived in Kona and flown you guys more than I care to remember, Hawaii is past the breaking point of scum and trash infesting your once beautiful islands. Your delusional if you think your pax are somehow better than any other carrier.....except Spirit of course
03-16-2019 | 05:27 PM
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HAHAHAHA I guess you have the market cornered on mouths to feed. Got it!!
If you and your boys wanna start a war over a wall ornament, then have at it. I will continue to welcome the HAL jumpers on our flights anytime any day.
I was hired into the next class with you guys three weeks before 9-11 hit. I wanted nothing more than to be part of the HAL life, but it wasn't meant to be. You guys offer a superior product for sure, but to hear King Air say your pax are of a higher grade is downright comical. Having lived in Kona and flown you guys more than I care to remember, Hawaii is past the breaking point of scum and trash infesting your once beautiful islands. Your delusional if you think your pax are somehow better than any other carrier.....except Spirit of course
If you and your boys wanna start a war over a wall ornament, then have at it. I will continue to welcome the HAL jumpers on our flights anytime any day.
I was hired into the next class with you guys three weeks before 9-11 hit. I wanted nothing more than to be part of the HAL life, but it wasn't meant to be. You guys offer a superior product for sure, but to hear King Air say your pax are of a higher grade is downright comical. Having lived in Kona and flown you guys more than I care to remember, Hawaii is past the breaking point of scum and trash infesting your once beautiful islands. Your delusional if you think your pax are somehow better than any other carrier.....except Spirit of course
Because that’s what I said right? Go back under your bridge.
03-16-2019 | 05:47 PM
#189
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Now now! While I admire that warrior spirit. that’s not how we talk to future acquisitionees! You’ll have plenty of years sitting next to him in the cockpit of the MAX to remind him that you were “hired not acquired”. Remember that Golden Rule!
03-16-2019 | 07:02 PM
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Excellent point. HAL fares to Hilo can get steep during Merrie Monarch.
So, same dates for
SWA Tulsa-Lubbock: $635.36
HAL HNL-Hilo: 209.94
Unless there's an international festival in Lubbock this week I didn't hear about!
Omaha-Kansas City? $779.36
Guys, you're missing the point. There's this myth that HAL overcharges on interisland fares, when all the evidence says this isn't true.
Someone will find a $49 fare from somewhere to somewhere, and that's great. I'm just trying to be Joe Q. Public here and pretend I need to get somewhere on Monday morning.
So long as SWA keeps doing what it's doing with the fare structure, there's room for everyone.
So, same dates for
SWA Tulsa-Lubbock: $635.36
HAL HNL-Hilo: 209.94
Unless there's an international festival in Lubbock this week I didn't hear about!
Omaha-Kansas City? $779.36
Guys, you're missing the point. There's this myth that HAL overcharges on interisland fares, when all the evidence says this isn't true.
Someone will find a $49 fare from somewhere to somewhere, and that's great. I'm just trying to be Joe Q. Public here and pretend I need to get somewhere on Monday morning.
So long as SWA keeps doing what it's doing with the fare structure, there's room for everyone.
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