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02-18-2022, 06:46 PM
#121
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Originally Posted by Poopchute701
Well folks, delta has 2.5 month upgrade. United and FedEx have widebody openings and short upgrade times. Hawaiian and the longest upgrade at about 3.5 years and you get to start out at $36. Why would anyone want to go to Hawaiian anymore?
02-18-2022, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Poopchute701
Well folks, delta has 2.5 month upgrade. United and FedEx have widebody openings and short upgrade times. Hawaiian and the longest upgrade at about 3.5 years and you get to start out at $36. Why would anyone want to go to Hawaiian anymore?
02-18-2022, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Donuthole
Rumored that we only had 200 applicants in the most recent opening and attrition is about to spike significantly. Sitting around and waiting for Japan to open up might bring dark days on Hawaiian quickly.
02-19-2022, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Poopchute701
The days are already dark... 200 applicants sounds pretty good compared the 100 that I heard. Hawaiian better up their game pretty soon before it's too late.
Consider that $36 to actually be $18 per hour given the cost of living disparity with the mainland. Good grief. Who do they expect should be subsidizing your cost of living?
02-19-2022, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Poopchute701
The days are already dark... 200 applicants sounds pretty good compared the 100 that I heard. Hawaiian better up their game pretty soon before it's too late.
02-19-2022, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup
$36 an hour! Sign me up! (Sarcasm).
Consider that $36 to actually be $18 per hour given the cost of living disparity with the mainland. Good grief. Who do they expect should be subsidizing your cost of living?
Consider that $36 to actually be $18 per hour given the cost of living disparity with the mainland. Good grief. Who do they expect should be subsidizing your cost of living?
02-21-2022, 04:46 PM
#127
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Originally Posted by Donuthole
Rumored that we only had 200 applicants in the most recent opening and attrition is about to spike significantly. Sitting around and waiting for Japan to open up might bring dark days on Hawaiian quickly.
02-21-2022, 08:27 PM
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Yes, but management is more concerned about hiring more managers than fixing internal problems.
The fact that the 717 is so understaffed due to sim issues is ridiculous. The bean counters threw all the eggs in one basket with the sim which breaks down every week or so. They gave up the Atlanta slots and so we have a bunch of pilots sitting around waiting for training while the
NEO's and sometimes the 330's have to fly interisland routes even though we have enough 717 airframes.
The fact that the 717 is so understaffed due to sim issues is ridiculous. The bean counters threw all the eggs in one basket with the sim which breaks down every week or so. They gave up the Atlanta slots and so we have a bunch of pilots sitting around waiting for training while the
NEO's and sometimes the 330's have to fly interisland routes even though we have enough 717 airframes.
02-21-2022, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
you think? Attrition I could see for commuters with less than 5 years on property but that’s a small percentage of the group. The retirement numbers are pretty manageable. I don’t get the sense any dramatic course corrections are underway. Hopefully they increase first year pay though. Lastly, imo Japan is too important a market to abandon out of restlessness
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