Hawaiian Hiring FOs
12-12-2025 | 08:24 PM
#1131
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Well after all this back and forth, it appears that you may not know, Alaska is doing the hiring and if you were to apply and get hired you can select an Alaska class and their equipment and base and get the higher first year rate, which is much more than Hawaiian side. All the bickering and bashing won't be necessary then, also, we are in contract negotiations and the pay you are questioning will end with that JCBA.
Of course all that is subject to change post JCBA.
Choose wisely.
12-13-2025 | 10:08 AM
#1132
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If you’re single, take the first class available from either side..
if you have a wife and kids, factor in taxes, the cost of private school, price of gas, price of groceries. Also factor in highest housing costs in the Country. That wide body pay rate difference is easily overmatched by living outside a high tax State like HI.
if you have a wife and kids, factor in taxes, the cost of private school, price of gas, price of groceries. Also factor in highest housing costs in the Country. That wide body pay rate difference is easily overmatched by living outside a high tax State like HI.
12-13-2025 | 04:40 PM
#1133
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However, if one accepts the class with Alaska instead of Hawaiian, they may receive a slightly higher hourly rate first year but will not get: widebody aircraft choice, HNL domicile, HRA, PMHP, higher vacation accrual, etc.
Of course all that is subject to change post JCBA.
Choose wisely.
Of course all that is subject to change post JCBA.
Choose wisely.
12-13-2025 | 09:01 PM
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12-20-2025 | 11:54 AM
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12-21-2025 | 01:56 PM
#1139
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717 used to be senior. That was over a decade ago. There used to be CA pay and FO pay with no difference between fleets. Once the pay for widebodies started going up more than 717, more senior people went after the money. The top third, maybe top half of the 717 CA list has been pretty consistent, everything below that is a revolving door.
12-21-2025 | 09:21 PM
#1140
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What percentage of 717 lines have layovers? Being a 717 pilot at Hawaiian was probably the best airline pilot job in the world if you're a family man. It really sucks that Southwest forced you to have overnights on neighbor islands, so it totally makes sense why it'd go stupid junior now.
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