ridinhigh

And there lies the problem for new hire pay,
thanks.

NYC Pilot

Ok so it seems like year 1 pay will stay the same, unfortunately.. Are new hires atleast getting hotels and per diem in training or will that situation remain the same as well?

av8tor55

I haven't heard of any changes there. Only 767 and 717 get hotel/per diem while they are at sim(since it's not at HNL.)

3inthegreen

HAL doesn't pay for hotels during training?

NYGiantsFan

VOTE NO!!!!! go back to the table and then 2nd time around will be a much better contract!! then VOTE YES!!

CFI2766

Are these the proposed rates in the first year of the contract, so one can assume add 3% to the rates for each subsequent year?

av8tor55

Those look like the rates incorporating the longevity and year over year increases.

stickpusher

I don't know the exact number. Approximately 10-15 during the negotiation phase? It's a guesstimate. The elephant in the room is the number of pilots that are applying (have applied), have received an offer, and are standing by to make a career decision to stay at HAL or move on to something more promising. Based on second hand information (for what it's worth) the Flight Division has received anywhere from 15-20 PRIA requests from other airlines....so draw your own conclusions. At the end of the day, I wouldn't let that affect your decision, focus on the TA and work rules, and make the decision that best fits you. If you like $36/hr in your first year and understand that at least for probably the next 5-6 years HAL will not pay you a housing allowance or cost of living allowance for living in arguably the most expensive city, come on down, your the pilot they are looking for.

CaptainDooley

Any word about how many apps they received?

Hawaiiankine808

No the window is still open.