Hawaiian Hiring up to 30 more
08-17-2017, 08:47 AM
#1132
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 9
Originally Posted by Egg320
Can anybody shed some light on HAL travel benefits and what they include.
Do they have inter airline deals like regionals have where regional pilots for example such as SkyWest get full UA/DL flight benefits of Envoy get full AA benefits when travelling both domestic and international.
On HAL aircraft what do you get with regards to first and business class etc? Do you only have HAL or is there UA/DL/AA etc or even zed fares with other airlines worldwide?
Do they have inter airline deals like regionals have where regional pilots for example such as SkyWest get full UA/DL flight benefits of Envoy get full AA benefits when travelling both domestic and international.
On HAL aircraft what do you get with regards to first and business class etc? Do you only have HAL or is there UA/DL/AA etc or even zed fares with other airlines worldwide?
08-22-2017, 08:05 PM
#1133
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 61
Originally Posted by Moonwolf
I thought it was 785 by April 2018. Which I think the next class puts us at 710ish? But with the airbii 321 coming yeah I guess 900-950 is more realistic, but not for a few years
1000 is possible by 2020.
08-23-2017, 12:35 AM
#1134
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Posts: 84
These "1000 pilots by 2019" etc numbers are basically just W.A.G.s based on some old Kool-Aid we all drank gallons of a couple years back, yes?
What will be the net gain in airframes when all the 321s are on property, and all the 767s are gone? Plug that number into your best estimate of HAL's crewing formula to know how many more crews you will need. Assuming the 321 / 767 displacement training bubble has already been hired, then that projected number of crews minus the current list, minus projected retirements in 2018, is how many people will probably be hired by the end of 2018.
What is that number?
What will be the net gain in airframes when all the 321s are on property, and all the 767s are gone? Plug that number into your best estimate of HAL's crewing formula to know how many more crews you will need. Assuming the 321 / 767 displacement training bubble has already been hired, then that projected number of crews minus the current list, minus projected retirements in 2018, is how many people will probably be hired by the end of 2018.
What is that number?
08-23-2017, 12:19 PM
#1135
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,222
Very true... so far 18 firm neo's, with options for 7 more... additional 6 widebodies( if we ever decide on an airframe).. subtract the 7 or 8 767 we have left..
Aloha is ramping up for 767 flights to LA and Mexico, could we compete in the cargo area using our 767's?
We are at approximately 770 with the neo's that are slated for delivery next year.. I'd guess an additional 100-150 is possible in 2019-2020
We have taken additional 330's that were not necessarily in the original plan. Same could hold true for additional Neo's. Or the opposite could occur.
Also may have new leadership coming in after our current leadership moves on. That could change how aggressive or complacent we are moving forward.
Alot of variables to the final number.. It's a pretty good situation for those of us hired in the 2010-2013 hiring wave. But still very fluid.
Aloha is ramping up for 767 flights to LA and Mexico, could we compete in the cargo area using our 767's?
We are at approximately 770 with the neo's that are slated for delivery next year.. I'd guess an additional 100-150 is possible in 2019-2020
We have taken additional 330's that were not necessarily in the original plan. Same could hold true for additional Neo's. Or the opposite could occur.
Also may have new leadership coming in after our current leadership moves on. That could change how aggressive or complacent we are moving forward.
Alot of variables to the final number.. It's a pretty good situation for those of us hired in the 2010-2013 hiring wave. But still very fluid.
08-26-2017, 06:14 AM
#1140
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Relaxed
Posts: 6,985
Originally Posted by Moonwolf
Majors require you to have volunteer work sometimes. The first year at Hawaiian counts towards that :/
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