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Old 05-17-2009, 05:56 PM
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$140,000? Shouldn't have gone to Jet-U.
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Old 05-17-2009, 07:53 PM
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Well I guess it is a good thing that flight bags are starting to become standard in the airplane, and pilots no longer need to carry them, i guess the airlines are prepping to create a 65 retirement work environment
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No they are just beffing up there chiropractic insurance.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:48 PM
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Hi!

I was furloughed and found a decent paying job, but I had a reasonable amount of experience, and I had to go to Kenya for the job.

I am hanging in until I can get a better "career" job. I was out of flying, and it was worse for us.

I just met a kid in Nairobi. She has a job, but had to work TWO YEARS as an unpaid employee, full time, before they said she was good enough to hire her full time, for PAY!!!

PFT, anyone???

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PS-I turned down PFT by Comair in 1992 or 1993. If I would've taken it, it would've improved my career IMMENSELY!!!
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rickt86 View Post
With a Dad whose a ual bus capt, they will go till close to 65 to try and make up for the lost pension and fact they havent moved up seniority wise in almost 10 years. If your young just tough out the nxt 4 years, and things will suddenly start moving fast, just build time, and hold tight, dont get married, and DONT HAVE A KID!
R- fyi, getting or being married and having children or not make very little to no difference in your career progress. If you have the right person by your side it even makes the journey better. As for kids..... being FURLOUGHED by a legacy carrier is a real possibility for any and every pilot out there...for me having kids while being furloughed has made all the difference in the world...actually forget about the flight deck 99% of the time and hang with my kids all day.....but you are right on the mark about the age 65 shizzle...socal.
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:28 AM
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I guess to each their own, I am working at a DZ right now and never enjoyed my job so much, everyone I work with is so layed back, and I am working toward my skydive license for dirt cheap. The place has ample cute girls who love to hangout w everyone who work there, and I dont mind I am making about enough money to feed myself and if I am lucky afford beer. I know that if I was at the regionals and got F word'd and moved back to this with a wife/child, I would not be able to afford it. I am glad I like it so much at the DZ as well because I dont see myself leaving for a few years, and can ride out this economy, we also have a senority based system at the DZ starting with the 182 and moving to the 206 and finally the king air.....the kingair time is great for moving on to something corporate next.

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R- fyi, getting or being married and having children or not make very little to no difference in your career progress. If you have the right person by your side it even makes the journey better. As for kids..... being FURLOUGHED by a legacy carrier is a real possibility for any and every pilot out there...for me having kids while being furloughed has made all the difference in the world...actually forget about the flight deck 99% of the time and hang with my kids all day.....but you are right on the mark about the age 65 shizzle...socal.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:43 AM
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PS-I turned down PFT by Comair in 1992 or 1993. If I would've taken it, it would've improved my career IMMENSELY!!!
No, it wouldn't. I have no idea who you are thus, no idea about your career. That said, I can still honestly say that PFT never improves anything but management's short term bottom line. PFT has done nothing but destroy our profession.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86 View Post
With a Dad whose a ual bus capt, they will go till close to 65 to try and make up for the lost pension and fact they havent moved up seniority wise in almost 10 years. If your young just tough out the nxt 4 years, and things will suddenly start moving fast, just build time, and hold tight, dont get married, and DONT HAVE A KID!


Yes , you are a very wise person ! Do NOT make the same mistakes I made !
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
Hi!

New student starts, CPL awards, and ATPL awards, have been going down and down, every year since about 2000.

The numbers of people turning 65 each day will be increasing daily over the next few years.

The economy is picking back up, people will want to fly more, and then the age 65 thing will kick in, then MASSIVE SHORTAGES, unless something unusual happens, which is always possible.

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Hope you're right. It was only a year ago that the sub-500 hour pilots were being hired, Eagle could not fill a new hire class to save its life, and this was all after Age 65. The perfect storm will be when the 65'ers come of age, the economy recovers, and the lack of student training NOW all mix together.
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kit darby get off this thread, this snake oil has been sold, repackaged, etc.................blah blah....they'll be a site at that time "will fly for less than crap"
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