Green Dog:

Since you have cracked the code, here is the answer. The hiring fee for a CAL FO is $28,543.90. The fact that same number equates to the sticker price of a new Toyota Prius is purely coincidental. This is the 737 fee. The 756 fee runs $4180 higher and the 777 will run you $38977.80. As soon as certified funds are received you will receive a letter of appreciation from me and if you staple that to your resume you should have access to the next class. Just show up the first Monday following receipt of my letter and tell the ground school instructors you have the Calcapt hiring and training exemption. You will then be scheduled for your IOE the following Thursday and issued all required manuals. You're right, It's not hard if you know how to play the game. If you ever find yourself in the Houston employee parking lot and see a brand new burgandy colored Prius there, It's probably mine. Be careful not to scratch it. If you don't want to pay that much for a job at CAL, I saw on Ebay today an FO job at Mesa for $1198.45 including an airport car and a Capt job at JetBlue for $5995.95 including free subway passes for a year. It really just comes down to what you want to fly, where you want to live and how soon you can scrape together the money. Good Luck!

 

Hey are you talking about me? I don't remember ever flying with you? By the way, it wasn't an RA, it was a "too low terrain" warning. I knew what to do with the hydraulics, I was just about done with the crossword and would of been all over that leaky SOB within minutes. In the good old days we didn't need computers or pushy FO's telling us what to do. And don't talk to me about bigger problems. My wife Bertie at 340 pounds has already lost 56 pounds in three days. Granted, some of it could of been her shaving her legs and taking a bath, but hey, the little woman is off to a great start. Is the checklist complete and the walkaround done Mr. Bust my chops?

 

LOL.good one man lol

 

I have heard they have a great flow through agreement with 7-11. Sorry Lord, that wasn't right..

 

lol thats hillarious

 

Why do you think someone with more time is more qualified than someone with less time? Maybe the low time guy went to have some specific training done that makes him more desirable? I highly recommend for high time guys without any big jet time to make them more marketable to think about going to Jet University. That way you can get valuable 727 time that is highly sought after by the majors. It worked for me!


http://jetuniversity.com

 

First off wolferj, I'm sorry that you were put in that situation, but at the same time I'm glad that you knew what to do. The big key here is complacency and lack of overall knowledge of anything to do with aviation. So that I don't get called out for being a chump or anything, I won't mention any names, however I will tell you of one situation that occurred during a recent training event at CAL with a new hire that had 0 PIC time.

Would you ever go 320 knots away from your departure airport with a failed engine in a high terrain environment? Why not stay close so that you can come back in for a landing? Well, their logic was this. "I wanted to go fast to stay away from the mountains." Uhhh, last time I checked, your going to hit them quicker when your're doing 320 knots as compared to 210 knots? And this is the kind of people that are coming through that haven't had the overall experience, but they've got connections through fathers and management. That frankly scares the **** out of me and makes me even more cautious of my job so that if they're daydreaming, I can handle the situation.

That's what aviation is, you help each other out, but for crying out loud, have a clue! Ok, now I'm done ranting. So for you wolferj, I totally understand where you're coming from and I wasn't ripping on just FO's, because I've seen plenty of captains in my day that didn't know what they were doing. I'm just saying that it's very important for everyone to be aware of what's required and have a freaking plan! Fly safe!

 

I understand the cause for concerns, but how is it different getting hired as an FO for a regional flying a 70-90 seat RJ and flying as an FO for a major flying a 737 (100-130seats)? There isnt as much of a gap between the regionals and majors as there used to be. It used to be B1900s and Saabs for the regionals and 757/747s for the big boys.

 

hahaha, this is the funniest thing I've heard all week!

a little sense of humor goes a long way with this job...if you ever get tired of flying calcapt, you have a fall back plan as a stand-up

 

If you can't laugh, especially at yourself, you will have a hard time putting up with this industry. I try not to take too much too seriously - except safety of course! I try not to be a comedian, I just think it helps from time to time to remind others that life goes better with a laugh and a smile now and then. Thanks for the kind post.