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Old 04-29-2009 | 04:48 PM
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I am graduating from Arizona State University with a bacholar degree in aeronautical management technology professional flight. I am currently instructing and have 1000 hrs total time with 150 multi (CFI, CFII, MEI certificates). I would like to find a job other than instructing. If you guys could give me some suggestions of some jobs or where to look for jobs I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Old 04-29-2009 | 05:08 PM
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HAHAHAHA.

Seriously, if you have a job instructing be happy that you're being paid to fly airplanes. In the mean time, get in line.
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Old 04-29-2009 | 05:33 PM
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I dont appreciate being made fun of and I am happy that I'm being paid to fly. I would just like to find something else other than instructing.
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Old 04-29-2009 | 05:50 PM
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HAHAHAHA.

Seriously, if you have a job instructing be happy that you're being paid to fly airplanes. In the mean time, get in line.

No really, seriously, the airlines are in retraction, cargo is slimming down, flight departments across the country are closing, and aircraft are being sold right from under pilot's seats.

How many types and jet time do you have? with 500 in type you might be able to go overseas.

I would stay in school.
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Old 04-29-2009 | 06:30 PM
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I dont appreciate being made fun of and I am happy that I'm being paid to fly. I would just like to find something else other than instructing.
Don't take it personally. That is how allot of people are in this forum. If I where you, I would hang tight where you are and try to get an interview somewhere. Try all of the job listing sites, sooner or later you will find something. Keep in mind that you have allot of competition and hard competition at that. You graduated in possibly the worst time to be a pilot. You could try the smaller FBOs and perhaps get a job as a banner pilot or something. Don't expect something like a CRJ anytime soon, but you never know. Don't give up, just keep trying.
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Old 04-29-2009 | 07:43 PM
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pilotdrummer,

I concur with HectorD. I would hang tight for right now. Job security is a rarity these days. Keep pumping those students through. Set a goal to get your ATP written completed/passed and to meet/exceed ATP mins ASAP. Make yourself competative. I can guarantee that once the regional airlines start hiring again (hopefully towards the end of this year...knock on wood) that the hiring mins will be at least ATP mins and gobs of ME time. (Note Piedmont Airline's hiring mins on APC: 1500TT/500ME)

Just stay positive, keep plugging' away, keep your eyes wide open, and your ear to the ground. Hiring will resume soon...you just have to wait a little and ride out the storm with the rest of us.

Cheers!
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Old 04-29-2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotdrummer
I am graduating from Arizona State University with a bacholar degree in aeronautical management technology professional flight. I am currently instructing and have 1000 hrs total time with 150 multi (CFI, CFII, MEI certificates). I would like to find a job other than instructing. If you guys could give me some suggestions of some jobs or where to look for jobs I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Your welcome to come work weekends at my drop zone in the manifest office, and you can be number 2 in line to fly as a backup after me. Otherwise I hear walmart needs cart pushers. Welcome to 2009.
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Old 04-29-2009 | 08:38 PM
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11,000 hours, 747-400 and MD-11 type, two kids and a wife to feed and about to be furloughed from UPS......can I have your instructing job?
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Old 04-30-2009 | 04:57 AM
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I think most all of us are in the same boat. Trust me I know instruction gets old and I love instructing. Just hang in there. I've been stuck free-lancing for over a year and fighting just to get into a flight school so I can have more students. I've got two master's, 135 time and cannot even get a job teaching at a community college. It sucks everywhere.

One thing that does work is make new contacts. If you instruct at a large school with a busy airport make yourself known. Strike up conversations with people. Hanging out in the FBO or main terminal works well. In addition some of the flight schools that are not professional pilot driven but yet are still busy pt 61 schools are a good way to meet people from many different professions who have good contacts elsewhere. You may get a student who has their own business that is looking to buy an a/c and a pilot to fly it or knows of someone who knows someone who is in need of a pilot. I've had a lot of friends get offered good corporate jobs that way.
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Old 04-30-2009 | 06:05 AM
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By the end of the recession of the early 1990's it was common to see 3000 hour flight instructors. If I were you I would be happy that I had a job and hope that I don't loose it. Expect to be there for a few years more.

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