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USMCFLYR 02-01-2020 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by cpagdog (Post 2969174)
Ya FERS has a special law enforcement retirement age/duration. You can retire after 20 years if you are 50 or older OR retire at any age with 25 years of service. The standard Minimum Retirement Age under non LEO FERS is 57 for those born after 1970, which for me would be 31 years. You can retire earlier but a deduction is made for each year you retire earlier.

Then for LEO FERS you get additional percentage toward your retirement. Under LEO you get 1.7% of your high 3 for first 20 years then 1% for every year pass 20. Where the standard FERS is 1% for every year if under 62. (1.1% if over 62).

BUT the LEO employees put more into retirement while they work...

Sounds like you know the numbers better than I do!

I'm a long way from retirement, so we'll see what is in place in about 10 years when I even start thinking about it.

So you say you got a ride-along.
When/where/ and what did you get to do?

cpagdog 02-01-2020 02:25 PM

I have 10-15 years if I stay LEO.

Ride along with flight check was in the DC area. They were testing a helo approach...and as you know DC has a lot of special airspace, so I had to ride along to give everyone the warm fuzzies. Haha

And in reality nothing should change your fers between now and retirement. You are guaranteed what you agreed to unless you opt into a newer retirement.

DeathStarPilot 02-21-2020 10:11 AM

I recently did the phone interview and I’m scheduled to take the emailed written this weekend. Can any current ASIPs comment on the qol. I’m currently working 121 and love the people I work with, but I’m excited about the possibility of only having a 20 min drive to KBTL. I do understand that there is still quite a bit of time away from home. Do you guys like the people you work with? This is important to me considering this for me would be a career location (if offered the position) not just a job or stepping stone. Especially since I’d be giving up the “flow” to AA. Thanks for any feedback.

DeathStarPilot 02-21-2020 02:13 PM

What is the emailed written like? Same info as previously mentioned for in person technical?

Jestapilot 02-28-2020 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by DeathStarPilot (Post 2981213)
What is the emailed written like? Same info as previously mentioned for in person technical?

I'm guessing you have taken the written by now, how was your experience?

ncbull 03-02-2020 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by DeathStarPilot (Post 2981044)
I recently did the phone interview and I’m scheduled to take the emailed written this weekend. Can any current ASIPs comment on the qol. I’m currently working 121 and love the people I work with, but I’m excited about the possibility of only having a 20 min drive to KBTL. I do understand that there is still quite a bit of time away from home. Do you guys like the people you work with? This is important to me considering this for me would be a career location (if offered the position) not just a job or stepping stone. Especially since I’d be giving up the “flow” to AA. Thanks for any feedback.

The current QOL depends on the assigned base. Some have more staffing than others which creates more or less flying depending on where you are at. Battle Creek is good about letting you telework when you're done with training. They haven't gotten many new people lately so you should be able to get assigned there no problem. Will you be happy flying a King Air 300? You can't stand up in it. Hunch over to use the **** tube in the back.

Like the sailor above said this isn't a flying job. It's a job that takes you flying. A lot of pre-trip planning goes on before every trip. Some trips leave you with a lot of NOTAMs and reports when you get back. Are you prepared to spend a few nights in BFE waiting on parts or a mechanic? Did I mention there is a lot of book work to get certified? It's like a college course you'll never graduate from.

All that being said it's a great job. I enjoy going to work and getting a good trip in. We have bad apples here you'll fly with just like the airline. I think most offices are two weeks on the road (home weekends) and one week home. Some weekend flying going on with certain projects. We just got the new payscale a couple of months ago. Supposedly new King Air 350s in a few years.

Have you gone by the BTL office to say hello and check it out? If you haven't yet you should.

If you want to get a head start on training put this under your pillow. https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flig...g%201-%204.pdf

ncbull 03-02-2020 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Jestapilot (Post 2985747)
I'm guessing you have taken the written by now, how was your experience?

ATP questions bank

USMCFLYR 03-02-2020 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by ncbull (Post 2988150)
Like the sailor above said this isn't a flying job. It's a job that takes you flying. A lot of pre-trip planning goes on before every trip. Some trips leave you with a lot of NOTAMs and reports when you get back. Are you prepared to spend a few nights in BFE waiting on parts or a mechanic? Did I mention there is a lot of book work to get certified? It's like a college course you'll never graduate from.

Remember those scars Hansen had on his hands?
I've got a matching pair in the works for you next ncbull!
Come home to MIDDLE EARTH and let's get some work done!

DeathStarPilot 03-05-2020 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by ncbull (Post 2988150)
The current QOL depends on the assigned base. Some have more staffing than others which creates more or less flying depending on where you are at. Battle Creek is good about letting you telework when you're done with training. They haven't gotten many new people lately so you should be able to get assigned there no problem. Will you be happy flying a King Air 300? You can't stand up in it. Hunch over to use the **** tube in the back.



Like the sailor above said this isn't a flying job. It's a job that takes you flying. A lot of pre-trip planning goes on before every trip. Some trips leave you with a lot of NOTAMs and reports when you get back. Are you prepared to spend a few nights in BFE waiting on parts or a mechanic? Did I mention there is a lot of book work to get certified? It's like a college course you'll never graduate from.



All that being said it's a great job. I enjoy going to work and getting a good trip in. We have bad apples here you'll fly with just like the airline. I think most offices are two weeks on the road (home weekends) and one week home. Some weekend flying going on with certain projects. We just got the new payscale a couple of months ago. Supposedly new King Air 350s in a few years.



Have you gone by the BTL office to say hello and check it out? If you haven't yet you should.



If you want to get a head start on training put this under your pillow. https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flig...g%201-%204.pdf



Thanks for the information. I just got a tentative offer for BTL and decided to accept. I was able to stop by the Battle Creek office and talk with the manager for a bit. Nice guy.

The idea of the KingAir honestly excites me. I’m currently a E175 driver, great plane, but its basically flying a computer. There is no real planning involved besides looking at the weather. The release/ planning is all done for you just punch in numbers and go. Besides take off and landing the plane does the rest.

I’m definitely ok with concept of this being a job that takes you flying, as long as there is flying involved.

Ultimately this career seems like it has potential for a much better quality of life for me. Even if I flew 4 day trips every week, the 20 min drive to KBTL beats the commute to ORD.

Thanks for gouge. Do you have any info on the KingAir 300 so I can start studying systems and the avionics package used? Also, my be a dumb question, do I need to invest in an iPad for EFB or does company supply?

Once again, thanks for the info. I’ve been reeding this forum since I applied for the job late November and seems like a good group. I look forward to working with everyone.


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ncbull 03-08-2020 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by DeathStarPilot (Post 2990402)
Thanks for the information. I just got a tentative offer for BTL and decided to accept. I was able to stop by the Battle Creek office and talk with the manager for a bit. Nice guy.

The idea of the KingAir honestly excites me. I’m currently a E175 driver, great plane, but its basically flying a computer. There is no real planning involved besides looking at the weather. The release/ planning is all done for you just punch in numbers and go. Besides take off and landing the plane does the rest.

I’m definitely ok with concept of this being a job that takes you flying, as long as there is flying involved.

Ultimately this career seems like it has potential for a much better quality of life for me. Even if I flew 4 day trips every week, the 20 min drive to KBTL beats the commute to ORD.

Thanks for gouge. Do you have any info on the KingAir 300 so I can start studying systems and the avionics package used? Also, my be a dumb question, do I need to invest in an iPad for EFB or does company supply?

Once again, thanks for the info. I’ve been reading this forum since I applied for the job in late November and seems like a good group. I look forward to working with everyone.


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