DAL invites going out
06-25-2010 | 05:13 PM
#341
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
If you were downgraded due to staffing issues, that is not the type of downgrade they are talking about
Technically you were displaced.
The context this is talking about is busting a CA ride or something of the sort and having to go back to FO.
Don't make it harder than it is!
Technically you were displaced.
The context this is talking about is busting a CA ride or something of the sort and having to go back to FO.
Don't make it harder than it is!
06-25-2010 | 06:24 PM
#344
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From: Light Chop
Wow...where did you hear that? That is close to 3000 new hires in 4 years! Is DAL planning to grow that much? They might me getting ready for another Pilot Early Retirement Program? Or are they hiring pre-emptively for the future retirements?
Nice rumor though...hope it is true. If it holds true, this place will be a gold-mine for newhires joining now.
Nice rumor though...hope it is true. If it holds true, this place will be a gold-mine for newhires joining now.
I was also wondering, what will AMR's hiring boom be when they finally start hiring!? Whens the last time they've hired?
06-25-2010 | 10:52 PM
#346
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I'd watch indicators like unemployment statistics, GDP and our stock price. Any of those leading indicators typically filters through to block plans and staffing decisions in that order. Delta reacts very quickly to market conditions and genuinely tries to avoid hiring pilots that they might have to furlough.
Overall, airline hiring tracks GDP very reliably with the average being about 4% growth yearly in between market fluctuations. Mainline hiring has fallen below the line because we've outsourced so much of it. Going forward it is hoped we will see normal patterns return.
06-26-2010 | 12:48 AM
#347
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They stated at the JFK meeting hiring 305 and then taking a break until fall of 2011 and then could hire another 300 or so. The flying at Delta is so cyclic that they don't want anyone in school in the summer. They need everyone on the line. If you have new hires in class in the Spring and Summer then you have to have pilots in all seats in class at the same time to make room for them as everyone moves up.
06-26-2010 | 06:05 AM
#348
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From: A-320A
If they do stop for the first two thirds of 2011 it will be an approach they have never taken before. It costs a ton of money to start a hiring program only to start it and then suspend it after a few months.
06-26-2010 | 07:04 AM
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There is still A LOT of uncertainty about this economy. Our hiring is being driven by growth. That growth really requires a sustained gain in employment.
I'd watch indicators like unemployment statistics, GDP and our stock price. Any of those leading indicators typically filters through to block plans and staffing decisions in that order. Delta reacts very quickly to market conditions and genuinely tries to avoid hiring pilots that they might have to furlough.
Overall, airline hiring tracks GDP very reliably with the average being about 4% growth yearly in between market fluctuations. Mainline hiring has fallen below the line because we've outsourced so much of it. Going forward it is hoped we will see normal patterns return.
I'd watch indicators like unemployment statistics, GDP and our stock price. Any of those leading indicators typically filters through to block plans and staffing decisions in that order. Delta reacts very quickly to market conditions and genuinely tries to avoid hiring pilots that they might have to furlough.
Overall, airline hiring tracks GDP very reliably with the average being about 4% growth yearly in between market fluctuations. Mainline hiring has fallen below the line because we've outsourced so much of it. Going forward it is hoped we will see normal patterns return.
Good points!
Also, watch global air freight. It has been a very reliable indicator going into, and coming out of recessions. Right now, there are a lot of positive signs there. Airlines typically use Causal methods in forecasting which are only good for a couple of years at best. Again, there are positive indicators going forward so let's hope for continued improvement.
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