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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 832886)
I agree. Everyone needs to remember that when they spooled things up in 2007 they were only going to hire a couple hundred. That turned out to be 700.
I was told personally by BB that Delta will never say exactly what the plan is as far as hiring goes. If they have a hiring department up and running and they are saying 305, I'd be my next check that there will be more than that unless the economic indicators they are looking at turn out to be wrong. They may have some months with very small classes or maybe even a month with no classes, but I think we'll see guys coming in for most of 2011. This was from the JFK meeting. We are going to hire around 300 pilots in the fall. We will take a break in the spring and summer of 11 and then look about perhaps another 300 in the fall. I am simply telling you what the powers to be said. Thats the only info I have. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 832971)
This was from the JFK meeting. We are going to hire around 300 pilots in the fall. We will take a break in the spring and summer of 11 and then look about perhaps another 300 in the fall. I am simply telling you what the powers to be said. Thats the only info I have.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 832967)
I am not sure about tons of money. A new hire is a training slot like any other training slot. We have many years ramped down the training department for the summer. We are doing it this year. We did it last year. There is some admin staff that would not be needed however normally they simply move them over to some other projects and then back when interviews will start. Not a huge deal or huge cost.
The point is that if they were looking for ONLY 300 they could have done all of them via flow over a few more months. I know that the power that be are stating no hiring for the first eight months or so of 2011. Hope it is not true, but as you know things change very quickly. I agree that it is prudent not to hire too many without knowing which way the economy is really going. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 832980)
The licensing on the tests, the cost of airapps, et al. Not sure if they pay per pilot or per month or year. Generally contracts are at least a year for stuff like this.
The point is that if they were looking for ONLY 300 they could have done all of them via flow over a few more months. I know that the power that be are stating no hiring for the first eight months or so of 2011. Hope it is not true, but as you know things change very quickly. I agree that it is prudent not to hire too many without knowing which way the economy is really going. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 832971)
This was from the JFK meeting. We are going to hire around 300 pilots in the fall. We will take a break in the spring and summer of 11 and then look about perhaps another 300 in the fall. I am simply telling you what the powers to be said. Thats the only info I have.
The guys they are hiring now are not for summer 2011 flying IMHO. If they really wanted them for the summer of 2011, they would run some large classes starting in January. Why hire guys for summer 2011 in August? They will be online by October just in time for the winter schedule. They can run guys through class starting in January for the summer flying. Projected retirements for 2010 were 3 and at month 6 we have had around 150. If that trend continues then we will have around 300 retirements which is what I believe is driving this round of 300 they are hiring/recalling. If summer 2011 looks good in December of this year you will see classes in Jan-Feb-Mar to cover the 2011 summer schedule. |
Also, it's better to under-promise and over-deliver. What sounds better?
We are going to hire 305 this year and maybe some next year. Then we end up hiring 305 this year and 600 next year. We are going to hire 600 this year and 1000 next year. Then we end up hiring 305 this year and 600 next year. Same amount of hiring, but one sounds better in the news than the other. |
how much weight does an internal rec from the training department help?
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 833002)
I believe you Sailing and have been hearing rumblings of the same type, I'm just saying that in 2007 they said the same thing and ended up hiring over 700 people.
The guys they are hiring now are not for summer 2011 flying IMHO. If they really wanted them for the summer of 2011, they would run some large classes starting in January. Why hire guys for summer 2011 in August? They will be online by October just in time for the winter schedule. They can run guys through class starting in January for the summer flying. Projected retirements for 2010 were 3 and at month 6 we have had around 150. If that trend continues then we will have around 300 retirements which is what I believe is driving this round of 300 they are hiring/recalling. If summer 2011 looks good in December of this year you will see classes in Jan-Feb-Mar to cover the 2011 summer schedule. |
Someone in my unit just got an email today. So there is hope.
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Originally Posted by Sawdog
(Post 833081)
Someone in my unit just got an email today. So there is hope.
On a Sunday??? |
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