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Old 08-19-2012, 03:42 PM
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Interviewed week of Aug 6. No word back yet.....
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bored View Post
Simple supply and demand. Currently you have a 1 in 20 chance on getting the job. If you're not willing to put forth the effort to get the job, then in my opinion, you don't really want it bad enough. Small sacrifices now, will pay off in the future. Oh... and yes, the grass IS greener on the other side.
Where are you getting this 1 in 20 number? This past week at the interview the HR people were throwing out numbers that made the odds sound better than that.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bored View Post
Simple supply and demand. Currently you have a 1 in 20 chance on getting the job. If you're not willing to put forth the effort to get the job, then in my opinion, you don't really want it bad enough. Small sacrifices now, will pay off in the future. Oh... and yes, the grass IS greener on the other side.
Nonsense. What hat are you pulling this "1 in 20 chance" from?
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kingairfun View Post
Heard of a Phase III interview last Monday...
There was a small Phase 3 on Monday the 13th.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustMonkey View Post
Nonsense. What hat are you pulling this "1 in 20 chance" from?
The "1 in 20" came from an internal memo that the pilots at HA got last month in reference to all the applicants that received recommendations from employees.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:03 AM
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Great. Anyone on the inside care to give me a rec and raise my odds from virtually zero to 1:20?
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This business about people scamming Hawaiian for an interview just for a mini vacation as the reason they're not paying for travel is a bit of a stretch. It's challenging enough to get them to call you, so they're obviously not calling every Tom, Dick and Harry.

It is indeed their prerogative to not provide travel to and from, but I doubt that this why.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LeftWing View Post
This business about people scamming Hawaiian for an interview just for a mini vacation as the reason they're not paying for travel is a bit of a stretch. It's challenging enough to get them to call you, so they're obviously not calling every Tom, Dick and Harry.

It is indeed their prerogative to not provide travel to and from, but I doubt that this why.
Okay first off, I love how people in this forum always take just one part of a post and focus just on that. Of course that’s not the only reason!! If you read my post and a few of the others you would see a few reasons that could be contributing to Hawaiian not flying interviewees out. There are possibly numerous other reasons as well.

Seriously think about it though, how many more applications would Hawaiian get if they offered people stby tickets and a hotel to stay in for two days?!?! I know a few people off hand that would apply even though they would have no intention of accepting the job if they were offered one.

The cost of living is very high and commuting is practically non-existent for the first few years. So you can see why Hawaiian is being very selective and only want to choose from a group that are really dedicated on flying for them and worth spending the thousands of dollars for training costs.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bored View Post
While the 1 in 20 odds were communicated directly by flight ops, you can also do the math yourself. 2000 applications, 94 positions = .05% or 1 in 20.
Yes but only 200 were called for interviews. Once you actually get in the door the odds seem to improve!
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dino1pilot View Post
Okay first off, I love how people in this forum always take just one part of a post and focus just on that. Of course that’s not the only reason!! If you read my post and a few of the others you would see a few reasons that could be contributing to Hawaiian not flying interviewees out. There are possibly numerous other reasons as well.

Seriously think about it though, how many more applications would Hawaiian get if they offered people stby tickets and a hotel to stay in for two days?!?! I know a few people off hand that would apply even though they would have no intention of accepting the job if they were offered one.

The cost of living is very high and commuting is practically non-existent for the first few years. So you can see why Hawaiian is being very selective and only want to choose from a group that are really dedicated on flying for them and worth spending the thousands of dollars for training costs.
Why do people keep saying this when it is not true? It is totally possible to commute for your entire career if you want. In fact, it would probably make more sense to commute the first couple of years because of the low starting pay, the high cost of living and the high cost of moving to the Islands from the mainland. With PBS you can ask for block days off or give up a few days off to have a line built for you.

I never thought about the travel or hotel when I applied to Hawaiian; I have a good friend there and knew he was very happy and that was enough for me.

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