captfurlough

I think the 28 number was for FAR 117, but aren't 14 or more of those guys already hired and in class recently? We've been hearing about a bid coming but like most of those bids in the last few years, they're slow to actually be published because marketing's plans are always a moving target. There've also been some unexpected retirements that weren't included in the planning, so there may be some captain upgrade slots in this next bid.

Overall though, the company didn't wind up keeping some 76s that were previously thought to be a possibility; there were lower yields and more competition on a few routes that pressured financial results, and the company wisely decided to limit further growth for the time being. As the 76s go to the desert those crews are transitioning to the 330, so a lot of 330 guys are moving down the monthly bid list as some of the senior 76 guys come over. Not sure, but I think the net increase in our fleet will be one Airbus for next year, and ultimately the plan is for just 7 of the 76s to remain.

For 2014, and aside from Beijing, the company appears to be entering a planned phase of slower growth and focusing on maturing its exiting routes and ensuring profitability. The next significant growth may not occur until the 321s start coming in late 2016 or early 17, although there may be some occasional hiring during the interim.

For those of you who really want to work for Hawaiian, keep watching and applying; it's a well run company and an excellent place to work. Now, if we can just avoid being bought out and merged.....

VnavPath

Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated to those of us on the outside looking in. On a side note, what kind of retirements are you guys looking at going into the future? Not a whole lot of recent info out there in this matter on HAL…..Cheers!

Stinsat7

Wow talk about keeping the faith. Good for Him/Her

Shifty

There were 2 people from the November group in class now.

ridinhigh

An average retirement number is about 10 per year till 2020 then about 20 per year.
Just a vague 'about' number to look at, not base your life on.
And some are leaving prior to 65 so those numbers might be more like 5 in the next year or two.

VnavPath

Thanks Ridinhigh!

ShortBus_Driver

Thanks for your help as always!

SkyBird17

Any news on the status of hiring lately? It's been quite for some time. Thanks in advance!

kingairfun

It's been very quiet...

Not many retirements, few net gains in a/c for the next 2 years.... slow trickle of hiring?

Be ready when the NEO's start arriving..Hopefully late 2016/early 2017

silver fleet

I am curious, I am still in "the pool" from the 2012/13 requisition, and we have not received our "req closed, please reapply" letter. Are they deliberating over staffing with the new 117 and upcoming bid? So are you saying there is hope for us still "swimming" for a Phase III?? Cheers!