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Old 12-11-2011, 06:18 PM
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Edit: Not feeding the troll.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BYOB View Post
When I check the VA website it still lists the 5,000 TT minimum.

Where do you get your intel from?
Website says 4000 now.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:06 PM
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Can anyone give me the name and title of the person I should address my cover letter to?

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Old 12-21-2011, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter View Post
If you clowns wouldn't sell yourselves so cheaply, no one would have to remind job seekers how crappy an outfit you are.

Hey fishy,
How does it feel to get booted from terminal 3 in LAX and watch us come in and take over? Have fun in your right seat for the next 10 years Mr. Righteous! HAHA!

P.S.- you never answered my question about getting barred from our jumpseat boy!
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by XDriverX View Post
Hey fishy,
How does it feel to get booted from terminal 3 in LAX and watch us come in and take over? Have fun in your right seat for the next 10 years Mr. Righteous! HAHA!

P.S.- you never answered my question about getting barred from our jumpseat boy!
In fishes defense they did not get booted they moved for alliance with the code share partner VA had first right on the gates.

On the jump seat one of the Alaska boys was not just kicked off VA jump seat but lost jump seat privileges for 6 months for not allowing VA to ride. Alaska's jump seat coordinator is a great person to work with.
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:39 AM
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I'm kind of confused by all of this. What's fishy's problem with Virgin? Is he complaining that Virgin, a start up company, is paying a little bit lower than everyone one else, yet giving out raises every year? They pretty much tell you during the interview what you're getting into, and I believe all of us are investing ourselves not only for the career, but the company as a whole, and ready to help build Virgin America into a great airline. This isn't some sort of "scab" operation, where we're stealing jobs from another airline. It's a new competitor in major markets...
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya View Post
Is he complaining that Virgin, a start up company, is paying a little bit lower than everyone one else, yet giving out raises every year?
A little lower? How about $65 an hour less than my pay rate? The complaint is that you're putting downward pressure on EVERYONE'S wages by working for 2/3rds what we are. If you don't think when we go to Section 6 negotiations that our management doesn't know VX can get narrowbody airline pilots for $110 an hour, you're severely deluded.

VX Captains this Christmas are making the same as QX Captains flying Q400s. That's called UNDERCUTTING.

And even with that HUGE labor cost advantage, VX still can't turn a profit. That's called predation.

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This isn't some sort of "scab" operation, where we're stealing jobs from another airline. It's a new competitor in major markets...
Actually, you convict yourself with your own words. But then, I suppose you are in the best position to know.
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Old 12-24-2011, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter View Post
A little lower? How about $65 an hour less than my pay rate? The complaint is that you're putting downward pressure on EVERYONE'S wages by working for 2/3rds what we are. If you don't think when we go to Section 6 negotiations that our management doesn't know VX can get narrowbody airline pilots for $110 an hour, you're severely deluded.

VX Captains this Christmas are making the same as QX Captains flying Q400s. That's called UNDERCUTTING.

And even with that HUGE labor cost advantage, VX still can't turn a profit. That's called predation.



Actually, you convict yourself with your own words. But then, I suppose you are in the best position to know.
APC can really drain you... Fishy, I don't think the folks going to VA are saying "wow, I'd really like to take a chance and make 50k less a year". Happy you are making 65k more than you conterparts but last time I looked, there's not a plethera of high-paying airlines hiring right now?

The obvious is getting overlooked in this thread...
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:06 AM
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Wrongo...my airline is hiring.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter View Post
Wrongo...my airline is hiring.
If you work for AS, arent they done hiring? I heard they were only picking up 100 people.
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