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Old 03-10-2014, 03:08 AM
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And unfortunately a lot of kittens are killed at Atlas each day.
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:00 AM
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This thread is getting a bit long in the tooth, maybe someone should start a new one?
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:57 AM
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WARich......just a note of caution. Many of us AMC guys came to Atlas thinking it was a better flying life than the military. Most of us hired in the recent wave have realized it's not. Your schedule, believe it or not in the military is better than at Atlas. You will be gone more, make less and be begging for TACC back. Your 1Lt squadron scheduler does a better job then the entire scheduling shop at Atlas. Per Diem is on average 50% less then government rates. Most domestic hotels are on par with base hotels, and your dining options around those hotels are similar to on base. No more "less than 24 so we don't need a non-A." Overseas they are, on average, better. Crew rest requirements are worse. For example, you will operate HSV-STN-LUX, then take a 4-8 hour van ride from LUX to somewhere in Germany, and that's the norm. You will be lucky if you get 12 hours of crew rest between flights. Usually it's 10 and in some cases only 8. There is a giant disconnect between someone you meet at HR and those out flying the line. Please understand I'm not trying to discourage you, just be ready to accept that the grass may not be greener over here. This is a job, and that's about it. Every decision the company makes about your life/schedule/crew rest/security, safety and travel is driven by cost. I have had some good trips here, and flown with some incredible pilots. I would put the collective skill set of this pilot group against anyone's in the industry. Hopefully, when the next contract opens up, it will get better. If you have any other specific questions concerning Atlas vs Mil, please pm me.
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:57 AM
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Sounds like a blast, sign me up!!!! I've been doing ACMI Day and Night PAX and Cargo for over 25 years. This sounds like a walk in the park.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Fillmore Slim
Crew rest requirements are worse. For example, you will operate HSV-STN-LUX, then take a 4-8 hour van ride from LUX to somewhere in Germany, and that's the norm. You will be lucky if you get 12 hours of crew rest between flights. Usually it's 10 and in some cases only 8.
That's on the Gucci jet. On the Light Twin, it's not unusual to spend a week bouncing around on company metal just to get to my first operating leg, when doing the overseas stuff. I've flown 28.5 hours so far this year. I typically have eons of rest between flights. YMMV.

Oh, and they're "patterns" not trips!
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:15 PM
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heard from a friend, who is in the most recent new hire class (b747), that atlas might have a b767 new hire class within the next couple of months. this could be in anticipation of more senior b767 first officers bidding out of that aircraft when their training commitment is complete. (that might be giving too much credit to some in the training department though.) keep your fingers crossed applicants and hired poolies.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:09 PM
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Plausible. 767 seat locks begin to expire in September. We retire 38 pilots this year, and normally lose 15 to other airlines, which should increase. Only 24 in the schoolhouse so far this year.
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:05 PM
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Bump because it annoys 744driver.
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Plausible. 767 seat locks begin to expire in September. We retire 38 pilots this year, and normally lose 15 to other airlines, which should increase. Only 24 in the schoolhouse so far this year.
I suppose it's safe to assume attrition will be higher in 2014 due to more mainline hiring. Would you agree? Maybe one or two more classes this year at Atlas would be great IMHO.
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:33 PM
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With retirements, early outs, and some attrition I'd be shocked if we don't need at least 75-100 new hires total for the year. Retirements are around 40ish I believe?
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