Why don't they just use some -900s or buy the new CRJ NextGen birds for their longer routes? Flying the Q from Burbank to Portland would be a drag.

 

They are dumping the jets because they seem to have put up an invisible fence running from Idaho down to California, over which they seldomly dare cross. Only exception is Montana, and now finally adding Flagstaff. Otherwise, since they limit themselves to these North/South routes, instead of taking advantage of the fact that we have 3000 miles of country to the east to choose from, they have no need for jets. If only the company was run by a parliamentary system, pinneo would have had to call for elections for a new government by now because nobody has confidence in these clowns.

 

Or how bout NO!! CRJ-900s and the CRJ-1000 BELONG at MAINLINE CARRIERS!!!!!!!!! I'm glad Horizon is going back to all turbo-props. Thats the way regional carriers should be. These RJs are getting out of control. Sorry for the hostility, but more planes at mainline carriers means more mainline jobs. Good Luck to all at Horizon.

 

The real issue with that is that the last thing the company wants to do is pay its pilots more money. They are looking for concessions. Bring something larger in and see what the pilots ask for????

 

So let me get this straight, you are willing to come and fly a 76 aircraft? Or is it you just want to fly what you scoped out? I think I heard the same argument about the 50 seaters as well....And what is a mainline carrier anymore with the serpant steinland running it anymore? What would first year pay at mainline be with the 76 seaters be? like 10 bucks an hour....

 

I do think that there is a potential for things here at QX to get really nasty. If they (AAG) are stupid enough to have a third party come in and do OUR flying, there will be hell to pay. But as much as I hate to admit it, the Q400 has incredible numbers if it isn't blocked by a MX Van. As it stands right now we do not technically have a payscale for the Q400. The 400 has 76 seats and we only have a payscale for a 65-75 seat turbo-prop. We'll see what happens with that... For the guys that are less than 150 from the bottom, I would start planning for the future. I have a friend at SKW and I guess Jerry was in ORD yesterday talking about doing CAL flying. Who knows right now.

 

Unless you live in PDX/SEA and don't want to commute, or you're a captain's teenage son/daughter, don't bother applying. 10 year upgrade and you'll be flying props when you retire. How about starting training at your next regional now, rather than wasting 18-24 months here (and then starting training at your next regional)?
Living the dream!

 

Wow, thank god i turned down the interview otherwise i would have had to cry myself to sleep more than I already do.

I had heard the rumor that they were thinking about brining E-190's on the property, they kinda went the other way...

I was considering a lateral move from my t-prop airline i think i got lucky in avoiding that with the way things are lookin

 

Yup, I most certainly would fly a 76 seat aircraft. They belong at mainline, and never have belonged at a regional. An airplane is an airplane. You don't see the guys at NetJets whining about their Citation Excel being too small. And they just recently got a raise. I'm proud of the CAL group for keeping their jet scope at 50 seats. I didn't give NWA scope up, that was done before I joined NWA. And I never flew anything larger than 50 seats at my regional, that's all we had.

The current contract at NWA is the same as many other airlines. A concessionary contract which is result of airlines using bankruptcy to strip labor unions of their wages. Life at NWA is pretty good, leaps and bounds better then the regional I was at. It stands to get a lot better.

So to sum it up, you're darn right I would fly a 76 seat jet at NWA The DC9-30 isn't the far off, and it pays way better than any 76 seat jet at a regional.

 

Good thing your scope goes out the window after the merger is complete.