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Old 12-03-2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
Thanks man! But don't worry about it...I manage to keep a life outside of aviation AND a life in aviation so I just brush it off.
Yea I am sorry about that. It was out of character for me to do that. However I was trying to reply in kind. You were coming on kind of strong there. I will do better in the future.

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Old 12-03-2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dashtrash300
How long did it take to come up with that? Seems like you spend more time on here then doing anything else with your life like spending time with your wife and 5 kids.

Anyone else ever lived in a laundry room? Cause I sure haven't. Maybe you should have sold the airplane, not gotten it when you were only 22 and used the money to live on instead of living like a hobo in a laundry room.
This is a slow time of the year for my business and I happen to have a lot of time on my hands right now and I like to write. I am home with my kids all day, everyday. Since you asked about my 150 I felt obligated to give you a complete reply. I do like my little plane. It is one of my favorite subjects.

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Old 12-03-2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"In that capacity I am not here to be a sad sack and ruining everyone's state of denial...."

Oh Please. When will you learn you have no right claim that everyone sees the career from your shoes.

Not everyone needed to have five kids and live in a small central Washington town with the strong desire to be home every night. You have mentioned on this site before that you'd not consider Southwest airlines as a worthy job because they didn't have a base in the Northwest. Sky, you put so many roadblocks in your path to being a happy pilot you were doomed to fail.

I'm glad you post, though. It gives people an idea about how not to pursue the career....
What some see as road blocks other see as the necessary elements of a full and happy life. Home, friends, hobbies, family, a wife and children are all important essentials I was not willing to compromise.

I have seen other pilots intentionally avoid finding a spouse move across the country in purist of a slightly better job and then wonder why at 40 they are not married and still do not own a house.

It is one of my main complaints about the profession. There is little room left for a pilot to develop a healthy life outside of the job. As pilots we are expected to drop everything and drag the family all over the continent following the career. There is not enough pay nor enough time off.

In the past a young pilot would get hired at their dream company while still young enough to endure the hardships. By the time the wife and kids came along hopefully they were senior enough to be past all the sacrifices. Now they just keep coming for decades.

It almost seems like a guy now has to be single to make this career work.

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Old 12-03-2009 | 04:51 PM
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I think we need to start a new Horizon thread, this one has become SkyHigh's autobiography. I have nothing against you telling your story but I would like to see this thread stay on topic, especially with the recent news. For those 12, sorry to hear it. Welcome to the club.
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Old 12-03-2009 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I started in the 1980's. My generation of pilots did not have access to the information that new pilots do now. The industry was also very different then. It puzzles me as to why someone with all the proper information would intentionally pursue this career unless they have intend to martyr their lives to aviation.

I don't believe that a rational person would blow a fortune on college and flight training expenses unless they held the belief that they were going to be flying for SWA within a few years of graduation. How else can you justify the expense? The only other explanation is that aviation is a hobby job akin to music and art and no one really expects to see their money again.

At least my generation had an excuse.

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I do not have a college degree and flight training cost roughly 30k through CFII. I have not always had the job I wanted or been able to live exactly where I wanted but I have earned well beyond my investment over the last fourteen years.

Why anyone spends money at places like ERAU or UND just to fly is beyond me but I know that it is not my place to tell them how to live their life or pass judgment on their decision.

I am married with two young children and they are always put before my job. I don't make money like I own a mint, but the bills are paid.

I guess what I'm really getting at here is that you decided you could not make enough money in a stable enough job market to fulfill your needs so you quit flying. I can understand that decision and respect you for making a choice to pursue what you value. What I don't understand is why you post on here like you are going to save someone. You are not. I also find the tone of your posts a little condescending and judgmental of people that still pursue or have careers in the aviation industry. Just because you did not see the value of staying does not mean that everyone else should leave too.

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Old 12-03-2009 | 07:53 PM
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It almost seems like a guy now has to be single to make this career work.

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I have to agree with this. It seems like a single mans game to me. I got married last June and since then have been trying to figure out whether I want to go back to school or wait and see if ATC picks me up.

My wife isn't pressuring me to get another job or anything. I'd just rather sleep in a bed next to her every night than a hotel bed (amongst other things)
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Old 12-03-2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude Abides
I think we need to start a new Horizon thread, this one has become SkyHigh's autobiography. I have nothing against you telling your story but I would like to see this thread stay on topic, especially with the recent news. For those 12, sorry to hear it. Welcome to the club.
^ Agreed!
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Old 12-04-2009 | 08:15 AM
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Horizon crewmembers, can offline jumpseaters jumpseat internationally on you all? I am lo:confused to go to Whistler from Seattle.
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Old 12-04-2009 | 03:17 PM
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You can jumpseat in back. No sitting on the flight deck international.
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Old 12-05-2009 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Banana
You can jumpseat in back. No sitting on the flight deck international.
Thanks GB
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