What Is Going On?
07-13-2017 | 04:36 AM
#141
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Blaming ATC is not the answer. There is only so much runway space in JFK and BOS. When you schedule 40 flights in a 60 minute period in the late afternoon to both airports in the middle of thunderstorm season, you can only blame yourself. Management's job is to understand the environment they work in and create solutions. JB needs to get creative, develop a long term growth plan that takes this into account and not blame ATC for delays they help create. They are in the big leagues now, play and act like it!
no its' growing pains...
we're ONLY 17
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Everyone needs to sacrifice to work here.
07-13-2017 | 08:09 AM
#143
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JB for better or worse flies out of delay prone airports and stands the most to gain by improvements to ATC. Also JB not having a regional to take it on the chin delay-wise is at a disadvantage. Ex. DL and JB both have an evening departure from BUF to JFK. JB takes a delay, as does Endevour but not DL. A real inaccuracy in reporting on time if u ask me...
07-13-2017 | 08:36 AM
#144
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"Thank you for not flying JetBlue" is my new phrase!
07-13-2017 | 09:53 AM
#145
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From: P-3C
I love the customers who stick around to board that flight. I did a BOS-JFK leg a couple of months ago that was delayed 9 hours. A customer said, "I could have driven there by now." I thought but didn't say ("YOU COULD HAVE MADE 3 ROUND TRIPS BY CAR!!!!!!)
-Bubs
-Bubs
07-13-2017 | 10:09 AM
#146
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From: CA
07-14-2017 | 03:30 PM
#148
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In light of the last e-mail blaming everything on ATC, here are yesterdays LAX - JFK flights. Results are similar on most, if not all, transcon flights . . .
DELTA
763 (EARLY at 1434L)
1123 (EARLY at 1514L)
407 (LATE by 7:07, at 0037L next day)
40 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2059L)
473 (EARLY at 2107L)
2262 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2341L)
759 (LATE by 4 mins, at 0058L next day)
1162 (EARLY at 0532L next day)
1908 (EARLY at 0702L next day)
1362 (EARLY at 0829L next day)
JETBLUE
2024 (LATE by 1:01, at 0959L)
24 (LATE by 10:12, at 0037L next day)
124 (LATE by 4:37, at 2136L)
224 (LATE by 2:20, at 2050L)
324 (LATE by 17 mins, at 2018L)
424 (LATE by 1:03, at 2242L)
524 (LATE by 1:46, at 0031L next day)
624 (LATE by 1:44, at 0132L next day)
1124 (LATE by 44 mins, at 0135L next day)
1224 (LATE by 5:35, at 1109L next day)
Yeah, its an ATC issue . . .
DELTA
763 (EARLY at 1434L)
1123 (EARLY at 1514L)
407 (LATE by 7:07, at 0037L next day)
40 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2059L)
473 (EARLY at 2107L)
2262 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2341L)
759 (LATE by 4 mins, at 0058L next day)
1162 (EARLY at 0532L next day)
1908 (EARLY at 0702L next day)
1362 (EARLY at 0829L next day)
JETBLUE
2024 (LATE by 1:01, at 0959L)
24 (LATE by 10:12, at 0037L next day)
124 (LATE by 4:37, at 2136L)
224 (LATE by 2:20, at 2050L)
324 (LATE by 17 mins, at 2018L)
424 (LATE by 1:03, at 2242L)
524 (LATE by 1:46, at 0031L next day)
624 (LATE by 1:44, at 0132L next day)
1124 (LATE by 44 mins, at 0135L next day)
1224 (LATE by 5:35, at 1109L next day)
Yeah, its an ATC issue . . .
07-14-2017 | 03:40 PM
#149
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In light of the last e-mail blaming everything on ATC, here are yesterdays LAX - JFK flights. Results are similar on most, if not all, transcon flights . . .
DELTA
763 (EARLY at 1434L)
1123 (EARLY at 1514L)
407 (LATE by 7:07, at 0037L next day)
40 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2059L)
473 (EARLY at 2107L)
2262 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2341L)
759 (LATE by 4 mins, at 0058L next day)
1162 (EARLY at 0532L next day)
1908 (EARLY at 0702L next day)
1362 (EARLY at 0829L next day)
JETBLUE
2024 (LATE by 1:01, at 0959L)
24 (LATE by 10:12, at 0037L next day)
124 (LATE by 4:37, at 2136L)
224 (LATE by 2:20, at 2050L)
324 (LATE by 17 mins, at 2018L)
424 (LATE by 1:03, at 2242L)
524 (LATE by 1:46, at 0031L next day)
624 (LATE by 1:44, at 0132L next day)
1124 (LATE by 44 mins, at 0135L next day)
1224 (LATE by 5:35, at 1109L next day)
Yeah, its an ATC issue . . .
DELTA
763 (EARLY at 1434L)
1123 (EARLY at 1514L)
407 (LATE by 7:07, at 0037L next day)
40 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2059L)
473 (EARLY at 2107L)
2262 (LATE by 59 mins, at 2341L)
759 (LATE by 4 mins, at 0058L next day)
1162 (EARLY at 0532L next day)
1908 (EARLY at 0702L next day)
1362 (EARLY at 0829L next day)
JETBLUE
2024 (LATE by 1:01, at 0959L)
24 (LATE by 10:12, at 0037L next day)
124 (LATE by 4:37, at 2136L)
224 (LATE by 2:20, at 2050L)
324 (LATE by 17 mins, at 2018L)
424 (LATE by 1:03, at 2242L)
524 (LATE by 1:46, at 0031L next day)
624 (LATE by 1:44, at 0132L next day)
1124 (LATE by 44 mins, at 0135L next day)
1224 (LATE by 5:35, at 1109L next day)
Yeah, its an ATC issue . . .
07-14-2017 | 04:19 PM
#150
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763 (B763) was on ground for 12 hours, came in from HNL.
1123 (B764) was on ground for 8 hours, came in from JFK.
407 (A333) was on ground for 12 hours, came in from JFK.
40 (B752) scheduled for 1:05 on ground, came in from JFK.
473 (B763) scheduled for 1:00 on ground, came in from JFK.
2262 (B763) scheduled for 1:10 on ground, came in from JFK.
759 (B752) scheduled for 0:50 on ground, came in from JFK.
1162 (B752) scheduled for 0:50 on ground, came in from DCA.
1908 (B763) scheduled for 3:55 on ground, came in from HNL.
1362 (B752) scheduled for 3:40 on ground, came in from JFK.
1123 (B764) was on ground for 8 hours, came in from JFK.
407 (A333) was on ground for 12 hours, came in from JFK.
40 (B752) scheduled for 1:05 on ground, came in from JFK.
473 (B763) scheduled for 1:00 on ground, came in from JFK.
2262 (B763) scheduled for 1:10 on ground, came in from JFK.
759 (B752) scheduled for 0:50 on ground, came in from JFK.
1162 (B752) scheduled for 0:50 on ground, came in from DCA.
1908 (B763) scheduled for 3:55 on ground, came in from HNL.
1362 (B752) scheduled for 3:40 on ground, came in from JFK.
