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Old 07-02-2017 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WorkingUp
Not with the way their attrition is . . . they almost always hire like gangbusters. To suddenly cancel all classes is VERY strange.
I just looked at net capital inflows for 1st quarter 2017--roughly 500 million net inflows of capital, including some chunks from institutional investors. That's vastly more than past quarters.

Could be the same story for all airlines and all stocks in general--means nothing without more relative context

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Old 07-02-2017 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
I just looked at net capital inflows for 1st quarter 2017--roughly 500 million net inflows of capital, including some chunks from institutional investors. That's vastly more than past quarters.

Could be the same story for all airlines and all stocks in general--means nothing without more relative context

So merger ?
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Old 07-02-2017 | 03:44 PM
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Have u seen how overstaffed we are with inflight? Ask one. They can drop whatever they want lately so I'm told.
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Old 07-02-2017 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Have u seen how overstaffed we are with inflight? Ask one. They can drop whatever they want lately so I'm told.
If we're overstaffed that explains not hiring any more FA's until fall.
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Old 07-02-2017 | 07:35 PM
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I have observed a phoenominon. For 15 years now. At a former airline......and now here.

Leadership making bizarre descisions. Seemingly inept. The employees, desperate to explain the root cause of these, believe there is "something up". Or "a master plan". The closest term I could find was Hanlon's razor....."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

This doesn't quite explain it. So I have named it after myself.

Coopervane's razor "when leadership makes seemingly illogical, ignorant, even seemingly stupid descisions and front line employees assume it is because of some hidden plan to eventually benefit them and the company........when it is actually incompetence and/or greed"
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Old 07-03-2017 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by coopervane
I have observed a phoenominon. For 15 years now. At a former airline......and now here.

Leadership making bizarre descisions. Seemingly inept. The employees, desperate to explain the root cause of these, believe there is "something up". Or "a master plan". The closest term I could find was Hanlon's razor....."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

This doesn't quite explain it. So I have named it after myself.

Coopervane's razor "when leadership makes seemingly illogical, ignorant, even seemingly stupid descisions and front line employees assume it is because of some hidden plan to eventually benefit them and the company........when it is actually incompetence and/or greed"
Good story. Now, what's a phoenominon? Is it like a sentence. Fragment. Words. Profound.
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Old 07-03-2017 | 02:12 AM
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Just to stir the pot some more...Frontier is due for an IPO at any time now. Last reports were an IPO as early as 2nd quarter this year which ended 3 days ago. Frontier is ripe for the taking.

Also recently heard we're now training their pilots and FA's at JBU. Anyone else that can corroborate that?
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Old 07-03-2017 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by coopervane
I have observed a phoenominon. For 15 years now. At a former airline......and now here.

Leadership making bizarre descisions. Seemingly inept. The employees, desperate to explain the root cause of these, believe there is "something up". Or "a master plan". The closest term I could find was Hanlon's razor....."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

This doesn't quite explain it. So I have named it after myself.

Coopervane's razor "when leadership makes seemingly illogical, ignorant, even seemingly stupid descisions and front line employees assume it is because of some hidden plan to eventually benefit them and the company........when it is actually incompetence and/or greed"
It is an emotional response. No one wants to think they work for greedy, inept management. No one wants to see the company they helped build plundered for fat bonus checks at the top. Sadly, that is what is happening here I think.

If it were a merger, we would have heard about it before they cancelled all FA classes. Think about it, how long ago did AK buy VX? How long did VX hire after that? How long before any major operational changes take place at those companies?
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Old 07-03-2017 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer
Just to stir the pot some more...Frontier is due for an IPO at any time now. Last reports were an IPO as early as 2nd quarter this year which ended 3 days ago. Frontier is ripe for the taking.

Also recently heard we're now training their pilots and FA's at JBU. Anyone else that can corroborate that?
They're training their FAs in MCO... not at jb.
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Old 07-03-2017 | 06:19 AM
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Doubt Frontier merger will happen. Completely different flying and a lot of caribbean overlap. Weird markets that only a ULCC will cater to.
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