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#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
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I think a forum with names is good for many reasons. I also believe we need to all ALSO keep our anonymous forums healthy because like it or not, JB has changed for the worse and we will now be in a negotiating cycle every 3-4-5 years. We need an anonymous place to exchange "ideas" about negotiations within the rank-n-file.
We need to be free(er) to exchange "ideas" related to negotiations without our name attached. Without that option, you will either see guys getting disciplined much more frequently for the things they say online or even terminated. Or, guys will stop exchanging "ideas" that push boundaries and the result will be much less pressure on the company and greatly extended negotiations cycle.
Yes, even an anonymous website can be sued for your identity, but we just completed an extended negotiations that was quite contentious in the final months without ever reaching the point of an APC or bluepilots lawsuit.
Some of the blueberries who don't like any harsh language about their precious CULTure may disagree, but mark my words, absent an anonymous forum during negotiations prepare yourself for greatly extended negotiations and possibly worse final outcomes. This company has already shown they will not present a serious offer without tremendous pressure from outside and within.
We need to be free(er) to exchange "ideas" related to negotiations without our name attached. Without that option, you will either see guys getting disciplined much more frequently for the things they say online or even terminated. Or, guys will stop exchanging "ideas" that push boundaries and the result will be much less pressure on the company and greatly extended negotiations cycle.
Yes, even an anonymous website can be sued for your identity, but we just completed an extended negotiations that was quite contentious in the final months without ever reaching the point of an APC or bluepilots lawsuit.
Some of the blueberries who don't like any harsh language about their precious CULTure may disagree, but mark my words, absent an anonymous forum during negotiations prepare yourself for greatly extended negotiations and possibly worse final outcomes. This company has already shown they will not present a serious offer without tremendous pressure from outside and within.
But is BP as anonymous as people think? I think it’s interesting that people will say (not you) JetBlue is a devious company that will take out pilots that don’t play nice all the while thinking they are anonymous on BP.
I don’t know the official answer but I sure would not think you are “safe” on that site.
But I did like the bus FO and Captain DH on my flight that we’re like pilotpayne. The captain told me who he was (I didn’t ask and have since forgotten) the FO just looked the other way. Just thought it was funny.
I get both sides of the argument I just think if it really came down to it I think the company could figure it out.
#52
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
But is BP as anonymous as people think? I think it’s interesting that people will say (not you) JetBlue is a devious company that will take out pilots that don’t play nice all the while thinking they are anonymous on BP.
I don’t know the official answer but I sure would not think you are “safe” on that site.
But I did like the bus FO and Captain DH on my flight that we’re like pilotpayne. The captain told me who he was (I didn’t ask and have since forgotten) the FO just looked the other way. Just thought it was funny.
I get both sides of the argument I just think if it really came down to it I think the company could figure it out.
I don’t know the official answer but I sure would not think you are “safe” on that site.
But I did like the bus FO and Captain DH on my flight that we’re like pilotpayne. The captain told me who he was (I didn’t ask and have since forgotten) the FO just looked the other way. Just thought it was funny.
I get both sides of the argument I just think if it really came down to it I think the company could figure it out.
#53
It’s that time again boys and girls, come join the circus before The Big Announcement on April 10th! Send a msg with emp# and JB email.
#54
Covfefe
Joined: Jun 2015
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I think you should do an annual campaign to bring some of the dudes there out here. We could use some scuds, barneys, and bandwagons to add some excitement to the JB APC boards. Maybe recruit ThE WaNG as well.
#55
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
#57
The REAL Bluedriver
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From: Airbus Capt
#58
Haha the outside world isn’t ready for those guys. We need to keep them locked up on BP. Somehow I don’t think the mods here on APC would do well with Wang, Scud, and Barney!
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