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Old 09-11-2017 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
In fact, it will only push a cba farther away. Just look at spirit. It's an illegal job action for you to suggest it Bozo. B6ALPA and this pilot group have done nothing but step correct to the company and the NMB. Please don't ruin it with your juvenile thinking and intimidation.
Im not suggesting anything Tom- What did I tell people to do?
Get a grip.
People can pick up anything they want, and we can have any opinion we want about it.
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Old 09-11-2017 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Does that make bunkers point wrong?
Not wrong, its just incomplete. Do you see that PP? Im not going to waste time explaining it to you- Read the posts starting with the one before Bunkers post.
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Old 09-11-2017 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Defending the company and try to equate it with a major airline is just as damaging to getting a CBA. I respect your right to defend B6, I just dont understand it Bunk.
I'm not defending B6. I'm defending fellow pilots who are taking advantage of a F-d up system bestowed upon them the best they can until we get our contract. Stop trying to conflate someone doing something you don't like, with supporting the company.
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Old 09-11-2017 | 05:44 PM
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Bunk,

That's Bozo's point. If guys were not picking up VDA and RSA they'd see that their W2's are sadly reflective of a regular effort.

The problem is more than just guys helping out and pitching in; its part of the culture that the company was founded upon. The company was born in a pretty $hittay period of airline and world history. Triggering premium pay rates at 70 hours meant working above and beyond was how it was done. That was also because the industry was bankrupt and the poor hourly wage, even at 1.5 times, was just about paying the bills. That's not the point. The point being that the company and pilots has always relied upon and planned upon pilots working above and beyond.

We'll get our CBA and Bozo is hardly suggesting anything illegal in regards to unauthorized job action. It's a personal choice to help out and pick up.

-Bubs
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Old 09-12-2017 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Not wrong, its just incomplete. Do you see that PP? Im not going to waste time explaining it to you- Read the posts starting with the one before Bunkers post.

I should have been more clear. I was simply talking and should have referenced his point that big airline even with "proper staffing" have this type of thing.

Heres a little secret for you Bunk- The "big boys" have decent contracts and are real airlines unlike the 3/4ths of an airline we work for.

But for the record I have never picked up an RSA and agree we shouldn't be doing it.

I'll try to me more clear next time.
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Old 09-12-2017 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Bunk,

That's Bozo's point. If guys were not picking up VDA and RSA they'd see that their W2's are sadly reflective of a regular effort.

The problem is more than just guys helping out and pitching in; its part of the culture that the company was founded upon. The company was born in a pretty $hittay period of airline and world history. Triggering premium pay rates at 70 hours meant working above and beyond was how it was done. That was also because the industry was bankrupt and the poor hourly wage, even at 1.5 times, was just about paying the bills. That's not the point. The point being that the company and pilots has always relied upon and planned upon pilots working above and beyond.

We'll get our CBA and Bozo is hardly suggesting anything illegal in regards to unauthorized job action. It's a personal choice to help out and pick up.

-Bubs

Totally agree. Especially about how these "habbits" started and the history of the company. That's a big deal we are changing how the company interacts with its pilots.
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Old 09-12-2017 | 06:30 AM
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RSA's.......I pick em like eating cherry flavored Pez! LOL
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Old 09-12-2017 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Great so 57 reserves sitting in bos with nothing better to do.

The company is gonna pay you to be there!


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That's funny. Staffing like that hasn't happened this entire year. The pause us reserves might get in Sept/Oct is not happening this year. Nothing to do with a hurricane , red after the first Pto window.

For those keeping track, and in case it's SSI:

Certain plane , certain seat: 13 required, 17 available on the 20th, but already 6 opentime "trips" = in the red, NET 11
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Old 09-12-2017 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I'm not defending B6. I'm defending fellow pilots who are taking advantage of a F-d up system bestowed upon them the best they can until we get our contract. Stop trying to conflate someone doing something you don't like, with supporting the company.
Or defending it at every turn Bunker.
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Old 09-13-2017 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Or defending it at every turn Bunker.
Or piling on fellow pilots instead of directing your ire in the right direction, Bozo.
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