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Old 11-28-2017 | 07:55 AM
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Management is management and has always reacted and treated us the same as every other person or group to hold the office.

ALPA's optimism or pessimism should not ebb or wain.

It should be a constant:

"We worked for various management teams for nearly 2 decades and they have never worked with us to provide fair conditions of service. In fact they told us we have to make a sacrifice to work here. Until we have an AIP, get your financial house in order".
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Old 11-28-2017 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
ALPA has offered no timeline on the TA nor have they even speculated. This absolutely could still take years or it could get done by end of January. Nobody knows.
What is the holdup? I thought you did mediation, and then when an impass was declared, you were permitted to go to self-help after a cooling off period.

It seems intolerable that mgmt can drag their heels through an expanding economy waiting for some downturn to justify substandard pay going forward.
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Old 11-28-2017 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Curious as to when you talked with him. Was it after or before the most recent mediation session. My guess is it was before because I think he might have a slightly different perspective if you talk with him now.

Not that we're getting a contract tomorrow kind of perspective, but I think the last session had a different tone to it, and I think they believe media campaign is having an affect.
AFTER the latest mediated session. Said management moved our direction, but still FAR from where they need to be.
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Old 11-28-2017 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
You mean ALPA info?
When did ALPA say it #keepsgettingbetter at jetblue?
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Old 11-28-2017 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
What is the holdup? I thought you did mediation, and then when an impass was declared, you were permitted to go to self-help after a cooling off period.

It seems intolerable that mgmt can drag their heels through an expanding economy waiting for some downturn to justify substandard pay going forward.
Yes you understand the process correctly. Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not but we began mediation a few months ago and an impasse has not been declared. I completely agree with your second point. A broken system.
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Old 11-28-2017 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Yes you understand the process correctly. Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not but we began mediation a few months ago and an impasse has not been declared. I completely agree with your second point. A broken system.
Even with an impasse we will never be allowed to actually strike. Fly too much in the northeast.
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Old 12-01-2017 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK
When I drove past I was thinking umm okay... never saw a billboard for a pilot contract dispute before.
You clearly haven't been part of a union 121 operation before...or long enough...or during negotiations because this isn't a new tactic.
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Old 12-07-2017 | 06:16 PM
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I like Spirit's new RED lanyards...
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Old 12-20-2017 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 727_Driver
I like Spirit's new RED lanyards...
And they have cute little snow man ads too!
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Old 12-20-2017 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 727_Driver
I like Spirit's new RED lanyards...
There’s an MOU between the company and ALPA that prevents us from having a colored lanyard like that.
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