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Old 01-08-2018 | 10:05 AM
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I just watched the “back to normal” video from SVP LSC. Wow. This storm was so challenging “because it hit the northeast”. And “jfk closed”. Duh!!!! “We’re still handling some crew rest issues.” That means staffing. Then a RSA package hit the emails. Awesome. More helping out bail outs. Staff appropriately. Upgrade appropriately. Use your spending for good. Not for evil recoveries.

BTW, unofficially SVP LSC says “Ops Normal” but officially it’s “Level 2 Irop”. So, if you’re getting boned by CS it’s because they can use the irop excuse but LSC can say fully recovered. It continues....

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Old 01-08-2018 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba

BTW, unofficially SVP LSC says “Ops Normal” but officially it’s “Level 2 Irop”. So, if you’re getting boned by CS it’s because they can use the irop excuse but LSC can say fully recovered. It continues....

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This is more likely a case of one hand not having a clue what the other is doing. (Otherwise known as Monday)
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Old 01-08-2018 | 11:02 AM
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I hope we go out of business...probably make more money with unemployment, than 2/3rd yr pay!
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Old 01-08-2018 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hercbubba
I hope we go out of business...probably make more money with unemployment, than 2/3rd yr pay!
Maybe get bought by a real airline in BK
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Old 01-08-2018 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by captsurf
Behind the scenes look inside LSC this weekend.
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Old 01-08-2018 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Beechnut
Dude. WTF.
My bad. Hyperlink went crazy

I nominate myself TOTD for that.

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Old 01-08-2018 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by captsurf
My bad. Hyperlink went crazy

I nominate myself TOTD for that.
I’d guess that’s a pretty accurate depiction of the chaos in LSC this weekend.
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Old 01-08-2018 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Maybe get bought by a real airline in BK
Please please please. Did this weekend convert any juicers out there? ...
I didnt think so
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Old 01-08-2018 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Please please please. Did this weekend convert any juicers out there? ...
I didnt think so
I flew with 3 captains in the last 3 days. 2 had no lanyard. All wanted to single engine taxi in JFK and other snowy/icy places. All wanted to not write stuff up or wait until back in JFK to do it. One extended me without consulting me (he was fresh, I wasn’t). That cost me a lot of money, he got his though. None had read the union email. All did stand up PAs, 2 of which gave HORRIBLE and embarrassing comedy routines to already delayed and disgruntled pax. Nails on a chalkboard. All were on VDAs. One is good buddies with a fairly prominent union guy and proudly said he supports the union, had the grip and lanyard, but did EVERYTHING the union said not to do. After the first day I asked if he read the union email..he said no. He got to hear all about it and the P2P call. I showed him the email. He seemed surprised about the things the union wants us to do, like be safe and legal and write stuff up, not make excess announcements, and do...you know, pilot stuff. He ironically also had failed to do a lot of pilot stuff, but made sure his stand up was done. It’s so hard as an FO not only trying to mold to each different captain, but to stand up to them when they say “let’s write it up later or not at all. You cool with that?” Or “we will go out on one, it’s not that bad out.” One said his timeline for being in a dispute is Jan 31st if we don’t get anywhere with our next two sessions. I reminded him that Jan 1st was when our union leaders made it clear we are in a labor dispute. I lost a lot of faith in this pilot group this weekend. But hopefully enough of us can educate those who don’t read union email and message boards. Shocking how out of the loop some of these guys are. It’s only your job, future, and potential boost to pay/retirement/benefits that’s at stake.

I really hope the union starts giving out flyers to put in flight decks to educate the ignorant.
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Old 01-08-2018 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
I lost a lot of faith in this pilot group this weekend.
I lost faith a while ago, but this weekend just showed again that A LOT of our guys here still or just "don't get it".

I am done rowing one way while there are so many still rowing the opposite way for selfish/greedy/whatever BS excuse it is this time around. We don't deserve a CBA! I'm back to putting 110% in getting out of this place!
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