JetBlue finally has come to the table
06-19-2018, 08:15 PM
#561
The REAL Bluedriver
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I wish we had kept 1 big pot used for vacation and sick....just make the monthly allotment the right amount then people can use it for what they want.......want more vacation, use it....want a bigger bank to SICKA, use it...want to sell some back....use it....
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
06-20-2018, 02:45 AM
#562
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I wish we had kept 1 big pot used for vacation and sick....just make the monthly allotment the right amount then people can use it for what they want.......want more vacation, use it....want a bigger bank to SICKA, use it...want to sell some back....use it....
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
Unfortunately not everyone has the options. This is gonna affect everyone different.
Personally, I'm with you, I'd like the big bank.
06-20-2018, 10:36 AM
#563
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 534
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
This is true, but it also has built in protections. Such as if you have a chronically ill child or spouse and can't get your PTO bank above 100 and sell back was never an option. (FMLA)Then even if you bid vacation, by the time sept and oct come around your bank is hovering in the teens. Vacation is eliminated. This protects planned time off with pay. Now you're not punished for using your PTO if you must.
Unfortunately not everyone has the options. This is gonna affect everyone different.
Personally, I'm with you, I'd like the big bank.
Unfortunately not everyone has the options. This is gonna affect everyone different.
Personally, I'm with you, I'd like the big bank.
06-20-2018, 10:50 AM
#564
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Originally Posted by Gordie H
I’m so sorry to hear about your little person….I can’t imagine how hard that must be. I do hope the new system helps you….helps all of us.
06-20-2018, 10:58 AM
#565
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I wish we had kept 1 big pot used for vacation and sick....just make the monthly allotment the right amount then people can use it for what they want.......want more vacation, use it....want a bigger bank to SICKA, use it...want to sell some back....use it....
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
I always advocated for upping the accrual rate, but keeping it all in one pot.
GP
06-20-2018, 06:30 PM
#566
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Posts: 534
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I'm sorry, that's not how I meant it to come off, my kids are fine wife is good! There are those of us that have those issues. I'm lucky enough not to be one of them.
Ah, good to hear. But yes, other people do have these situations and I hadn't really thought of that (because normally I just think of ME
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06-21-2018, 02:34 AM
#567
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Position: P-3C
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I wish we had kept 1 big pot used for vacation and sick....just make the monthly allotment the right amount then people can use it for what they want.......want more vacation, use it....want a bigger bank to SICKA, use it...want to sell some back....use it....
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
The new proposed system handcuffs us and diminishes the amount of weekly vacations and overall sick bank for flexibility...
Such crap.
-Bubs
06-21-2018, 03:56 AM
#568
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Not if you’re being scrutinized for DEPENDABILITY when you decide to use your discretionary PTO. Need a CBA so we can ink this stuff in fellas. No rules. They win.
-Bubs
-Bubs
I understand the broader argument, but the split is prob what the survey indicated.
06-21-2018, 05:19 AM
#569
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Im with you- I wanted a split. Now I get 2 weeks paid and can use the pto monthly to get an extra day.
I understand the broader argument, but the split is prob what the survey indicated.
I understand the broader argument, but the split is prob what the survey indicated.
Sooo however I do not agree with two weeks of vacation for 0-9 years. I will say, if we could go back to the table and come up with something else keeping the banks separate we would see a lot more people calling in sick when actually sick. I’d rather call in for a trip with straight time sell back.
06-21-2018, 06:04 AM
#570
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Not if you’re being scrutinized for DEPENDABILITY when you decide to use your discretionary PTO. Need a CBA so we can ink this stuff in fellas. No rules. They win.
-Bubs
-Bubs
Our current dependability policy is not terribly onerous by airline standards, so if we codify it in a CBA, I don't expect it to change much. Commuter policy may get better however.
Old system literally gave you about the same amount of total time off as the new system, but you could choose to use all your weeks for vacation or all your weeks for sickation or mix. New system gives the same time off, but limits how you can use it.
We traded the flexibility for more summer week availability. Not a judgement on the AIP, just a compare and contrast.
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