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Old 06-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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Yeah and moving up the seniority list wouldn’t be helpful?

How much movement do you really think there'd be? And would it be worth it compared with the substandard bullet points?
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:44 AM
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How much movement do you really think there'd be? And would it be worth it compared with the substandard bullet points?
Total WAG and napkin math stirred in with some PCRB old ass info and ADG, I'd say we're looking at a minimum of 10% and that's probably low.. JMO.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
Bluedriver why do you ask me questions

A you know the answer to

And

B I can’t really answer.

This is your standard game. The things in the AIP would be vacation distribution and pairing construction/work rules.

Now how many pilots that will require I have no idea could be none. That’s why I said.
Let’s see if this contract forces real hiring not. I didn’t say anything about the AIP. And I’m sure you would agree that the companies goal is to keep hard count to a minimum that’s what our current PEA is all about.

Respectfully bud your game is a little old. Do you see me cheerleading this thing? No I have mainly kept quiet or used a lot of Maybe, could be, let’s see stuff.
I was having a little fun with you "I'll play".

You did say "we'll see" if the contract requires extra staffing... So yeah, I know you're not selling it bud.

Man I just hope the "leaked", "rumored" and "suggested" "on par with SWA in it's totality" is at least close to true.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:50 AM
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Total WAG and napkin math stirred in with some PCRB old ass info and ADG, I'd say we're looking at a minimum of 10% and that's probably low.. JMO.
I counter your JMO with my JMO. I think it will be less via multiple ways to offset what we assume will require more staffing.

But, JMO.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:59 AM
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I counter your JMO with my JMO. I think it will be less via multiple ways to offset what we assume will require more staffing.

But, JMO.
but whats your WAG?
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:05 AM
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Total WAG and napkin math stirred in with some PCRB old ass info and ADG, I'd say we're looking at a minimum of 10% and that's probably low.. JMO.
I think the company discretion 150% premium FCFS window, RSA, and VDA will take care of much of the additional staffing needs. Especially since PTOSB isn't going to be as good of an income supplement as it is now, guys will resort to picking more stuff up, especially at premium, or flying over VAC. Furthermore, I imagine our industry leading pairing construction rules will likely make our trips more efficient, flying more per day, which could further drive down the need for more bodies. Hope I'm wrong and this requires several hundred more bodies. Interested to see more details on Thurs/Fri and go to a roadshow. But things like bidding/pickup patterns and vacation patterns (and flying over it) can't be truly evaluated until it plays out for a while.
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:32 AM
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but whats your WAG?
My WAG is about 5%. This is JB. Even if the TA REQUIRED 10%, they'd hire 5% or less anyways!

JMO bud!
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:42 AM
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I was having a little fun with you "I'll play".

You did say "we'll see" if the contract requires extra staffing... So yeah, I know you're not selling it bud.

Man I just hope the "leaked", "rumored" and "suggested" "on par with SWA in it's totality" is at least close to true.
Oh I took it the wrong way sorry
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:42 AM
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Oh I took it the wrong way sorry

That NEVER happens on pilot message boards. Ever.
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
How much movement do you really think there'd be? And would it be worth it compared with the substandard bullet points?
Can’t answer that without the language and see how that would work.
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