JetBlue finally has come to the table
06-14-2018, 05:52 PM
#441
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
I think we're wasting our time using logic with Q. He has an agenda that has nothing to do with the betterment of this pilot group. He's on my ignore list- starting....now. Bye Q. 
06-14-2018, 05:56 PM
#442
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
If anything just vacation round bidding alone will make for a more fair vacation system vs the top heavy one we have now.
Yay.. vacation bidding... One more thing we shouldn't be begging for. We should've had that too! Getting to industry standard is not progress, that's just catching up to UA, DL, SWA, AA.
It doesn't change the fact that we're going to have to go through divorces to get what UA, DL, SWA, AA do in 70 hrs. We got screwed with the AIP, plain and simple. The rates are horrible and the only way to normalize it is to be a workaholic FLICA *****. That's the only thing the rules will really do... allow the profiteers to profit more by incentivizing productivity. If you want to have a decent life, forget about it with this AIP.
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06-14-2018, 05:57 PM
#443
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Are you a first year regional pilot thinking that pay rates are paramount? 
No, I'm a student of the industry knowing how pilots are being given false choices that you can't have Pay and Rules.
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06-14-2018, 05:57 PM
#444
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Originally Posted by Southerner
I only have one on my ignore list, but maybe it's time for two... Bye Q!!
Enjoy your safe space!
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06-14-2018, 05:59 PM
#445
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Originally Posted by Southerner
I didn't say that you can't. I'm just saying that the work rules matter more than the pay rates in a vacuum. In other words, you cannot tell of rates are good or bad until you see the language that determines how those rates are implemented.
Until we see the language associated with those pay rates, we have no idea if they are good or bad.
Until we see the language associated with those pay rates, we have no idea if they are good or bad.
For everyone else here: Southerner, show me an example where rules have compensated for substandard rates. I hope the trauma is a little less in your safe space.
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06-14-2018, 06:00 PM
#446
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
I think we're wasting our time using logic with Q. He has an agenda that has nothing to do with the betterment of this pilot group. He's on my ignore list- starting....now. Bye Q.
Goodbye! Hope F&H still pays you for throwing in the towel.
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06-14-2018, 06:04 PM
#447
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Originally Posted by queue
For everyone else here: Southerner, show me an example where rules have compensated for substandard rates. I hope the trauma is a little less in your safe space.
Buh bye. Idiot.
06-14-2018, 06:08 PM
#448
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Originally Posted by Southerner
Are you new to the industry? You certainly seem to be. If you don't understand the relationship between work rules and pay rates, there's nothing any of us can do for you.
Buh bye. Idiot.
Buh bye. Idiot.
Bye bye defeatist. I'm not surprised you threw in the towel. You failed to make your case every time. Time for you to retire.
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06-14-2018, 08:52 PM
#449
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Originally Posted by queue
For everyone else here: Southerner, show me an example where rules have compensated for substandard rates. I hope the trauma is a little less in your safe space.
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06-14-2018, 09:37 PM
#450
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Originally Posted by queue
Bye bye defeatist. I'm not surprised you threw in the towel. You failed to make your case every time. Time for you to retire.
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I don’t know if you are a F&H plant or not, but I believe you don’t work here.
You preach taking the high road, but you have recently taken the low road since you have been outed.
Perhaps it’s time to take a break and spend time with the family?
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