Originally Posted by flyguy81

SWA scope allows for codeshares based on certain stipulations and only with union approval. Ex: Cannot codeshare from Mexico or Canada ever but Europe/Asia is ok until the pax number reaches a certain amount and then the route must be flown by SWA pilots.

Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot

Saying anything without looking is a guess.
Ill ask the same question to you; How much do you believe we will gain by voting no and how long are you willing to wait?
And do the gains of waiting outweigh the immediate improvements?
I honestly dont know- Do you? Maybe gambling is what we should do-Im open to all ideas, but so should you hard NO voters.

Originally Posted by dontsurf

i don't know why this is even a thread, as the bullet points do not even use the phrase "industry leading scope". it says "industry standard language" on some scope issues.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Sounds "industry leading", by a mile.

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

Right, and we don't know what ours says...

so the title of the thread should be we don't know if we have industry leading scope?

We do know it's better than AK. Presumably better than AA, DAL, and UAL. So we're #2 maybe?

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I've agreed probably #2.

To leapfrog SWA JB would pretty much have to cancel most of the existing long haul codeshare flying. You really think they would ever agree to that?

I haven't seen any press releases cancelling or warning investors that they may need to cancel their codesharing agreements or JetSuiteX?

Have you?

Or are we doing the unicorn Kate Beckinsale thing again?

😁

Originally Posted by PasserOGas

And you know this is true because he is a yes voter, thus more rational and less emotional. The ONLY reason one wouldn't want to vote in a sub standard AIP would be because of emotions.

Just ask any yes voter.

Originally Posted by queue

You really must learn to govern your emotions. You haven't presented any logical arguments beyond pure speculation. Who in their right mind would present the opposing party verification of your group's low morale to make them believe their weak offer will be accepted? Don't you see that you are simply being the voice of Tokyo Rose?



I realize that you must have extreme insecurities about your marketability as a professional pilot. This is why BJ hires so many unhireable pilots - they ALL talk just like you.



Are you too old? Are you too toxic to other airlines? Did you drink too much and get caught? Did you beat your wife too many times? Are you a brown-nosing CP or CP-in-training? There has to be some deeper underlying reason why your calculations make it too expensive for you to fight. You must have some kind of personal or professional weakness that makes you a liability to the team. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so quick to turn tail without fighting what a professional pilot is really worth.





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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot

The toxicity that you exude speaks to you're lack of objectivity, which indicates a suspension of patience and intellect. As Ive said to pog, good luck with that. Feel free to pm me back or text
Just remain open to facts.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

The post you quoted didn't say vote NO, niether did the thread in general.