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Old 05-25-2018 | 11:18 PM
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I'd like to get your take on the Union blast mail that was sent out. Will you wait for the final language before passing judgement?

As I said in the other thread, I think the Language better be freaking amazing, because the union sure is selling it.
Well I can pass judgment on the AIP and it is grossly substandard. As to the final contract language, obviously I don't know yet. However, knowing that they have rejected many other previous inputs in the past, I am not hopeful of a sufficiently thorough legal language.

The union is selling it because their egos are on the line. They have spent a lot of time on this and they don't want to be seen as failures. But that's not my problem, if anything is substandard, it will be an automatic No. I don't believe for a second that the AIP is the absolute best we could have gotten. Maybe it is the best that they could have gotten but there are many other people at this company that could have done better than them. In fact, the battle is not over yet. We could stage informational pickets tomorrow at strategic locations to ratchet up force again. In my opinion, this union has made several severe tactical and strategic mistakes.

So yes, like the Democrats and Obama care, they pretty much have no choice but to sell it. However we have a choice in rejecting it. We must not except mediocrity under any circumstance.


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Old 05-26-2018 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
Well I can pass judgment on the AIP and it is grossly substandard. As to the final contract language, obviously I don't know yet. However, knowing that they have rejected many other previous inputs in the past, I am not hopeful of a sufficiently thorough legal language.

The union is selling it because their egos are on the line. They have spent a lot of time on this and they don't want to be seen as failures. But that's not my problem, if anything is substandard, it will be an automatic No. I don't believe for a second that the AIP is the absolute best we could have gotten. Maybe it is the best that they could have gotten but there are many other people at this company that could have done better than them. In fact, the battle is not over yet. We could stage informational pickets tomorrow at strategic locations to ratchet up force again. In my opinion, this union has made several severe tactical and strategic mistakes.

So yes, like the Democrats and Obama care, they pretty much have no choice but to sell it. However we have a choice in rejecting it. We must not except mediocrity under any circumstance.


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Or like Trump trying to sell his tax increase

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Old 05-26-2018 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Or like Trump trying to sell his tax increase
And the local racists steps up for commentary.
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Old 05-26-2018 | 03:55 AM
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And the local racists steps up for commentary.
Wow. What world are you living in?
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Old 05-26-2018 | 04:04 AM
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guys-


Can we keep the politics out of this? Lets just keep this website for personal attacks.
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Old 05-26-2018 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Wow. What world are you living in?
Oh sorry I thought that’s how all these political pundits end.

Since we don’t agree you’re a rascist?

I thought we’d just get it out of the way and move on.

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Old 05-26-2018 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Wow. What world are you living in?

The Democrats (the left) are the racist ones. They believe in racial outcomes. That IS the definition of racism. Even the moderate ones want to see outcomes tied to race and gender. Their fringe wants "no white" safe spaces. Sadly, that is not a joke.



https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/aeman-...b_6897176.html


That's why Democrats, despite having all the racial/gender numbers in their favor during their regime, did absolutely nothing to help the ones they claimed are victims. The simply wanted more believers for the Democrat plantation. They never wanted any minority group to succeed - they merely want voters. Now they are so desperate that California is letting illegals vote while NY just allowed criminals to vote. Chicago is giving people a city ID card which is usable as ID for voting. So yes, the liberal left Democrats are Racist and Sexist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytSZ851hLRc




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Old 05-26-2018 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by queue
Well I can pass judgment on the AIP and it is grossly substandard. As to the final contract language, obviously I don't know yet. However, knowing that they have rejected many other previous inputs in the past, I am not hopeful of a sufficiently thorough legal language.

The union is selling it because their egos are on the line. They have spent a lot of time on this and they don't want to be seen as failures. But that's not my problem, if anything is substandard, it will be an automatic No. I don't believe for a second that the AIP is the absolute best we could have gotten. Maybe it is the best that they could have gotten but there are many other people at this company that could have done better than them. In fact, the battle is not over yet. We could stage informational pickets tomorrow at strategic locations to ratchet up force again. In my opinion, this union has made several severe tactical and strategic mistakes.

So yes, like the Democrats and Obama care, they pretty much have no choice but to sell it. However we have a choice in rejecting it. We must not except mediocrity under any circumstance.


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Does it make you angry that your vote only counts once? Majority will determine not Q. Just think if I was a YES and you were A NO it would cancel you out? Don’t assume the way I am voting cause I have not read anything a all!!!!!
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Old 05-26-2018 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Does it make you angry that your vote only counts once? Majority will determine not Q. Just think if I was a YES and you were A NO it would cancel you out? Don’t assume the way I am voting cause I have not read anything a all!!!!!
C'mon man... like you would ever vote no.
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Old 05-26-2018 | 08:01 PM
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Please guys do not use leading and Jetblew on the same sentence.
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