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Old 05-27-2018 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Below average rates and COLA? (Throw in PS/SB for good measure).

Guessing you are trying to make a point since we don’t yet have a TA on which to vote. I’ll counter that we clearly have an AIP, with many knowns on which comparisons can be made, and the standard progression is for that AIP to become a TA that we will vote on in short order. But you knew that.
Too many unknowns to decide on my vote right now. But I do hope your recruiting efforts go well guys.
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Old 05-27-2018 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Too many unknowns to decide on my vote right now. But I do hope your recruiting efforts go well guys.
No need to recruit. Facts speak for themselves.


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Old 05-27-2018 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
No need to recruit. Facts speak for themselves.


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This is circular Q. Tell us the facts about scope/work rules...
Does anyone have them? I missed the release of the full T/A.
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Old 05-27-2018 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
This is circular Q. Tell us the facts about scope/work rules...
Does anyone have them? I missed the release of the full T/A.
Did you read the AIP? Are you telling me the contract language will contradict and improve upon the AIP? The AIP is supposed to be the best parts! The numerical rates for pay alone are substandard.

I'm not trading pay for rules, or vice versa. No false choices.



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Old 05-27-2018 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
Did you read the AIP? Are you telling me the contract language will contradict and improve upon the AIP? The AIP is supposed to be the best parts! The numerical rates for pay alone are substandard.

I'm not trading pay for rules, or vice versa. No false choices.



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Did you read the AIP? We have bullet points I don’t think that is the totality of the AIP.
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Old 05-27-2018 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
Did you read the AIP? Are you telling me the contract language will contradict and improve upon the AIP? The AIP is supposed to be the best parts! The numerical rates for pay alone are substandard.

I'm not trading pay for rules, or vice versa. No false choices.



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Has nothing to do with best or worst parts. It's simply bullet points.
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Old 05-27-2018 | 10:59 AM
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"I do not remember one of them screaming when the cost of insulin was raised 3000 percent. "


This bothers me. Actually it bothers Trump a lot which is why he is constantly attacking big-pharma. The way to attack that kind of price increase is to firstly get rid of all government subsidies at the local, state, and federal level. That way the market has complete authority over a company rather than being shielded by corrupt government (mostly Democrat). Then, it's up to the consumer to inform themselves and to exert market forces on them. Nothing is stopping a competitor from inventing a comparable drug or treatment for insulin. Right now, there is a huge barrier to entry because of laws passed by big corporations through Democrats to establish a high barrier to entry.

It bothers him a lot? Bull****...Look who he appointed to head the HHS?

Im gonna vote yes because I wouldn't want anyones airplane ticket to cost a few more pennies..
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Old 05-27-2018 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Im gonna vote yes because I wouldn't want anyones airplane ticket to cost a few more pennies..
I think this has to be a troll post. You are willing to work for less than your peers to subsidize ticket prices for customers? Should I remind you that instead of investing $1.25 billion into infrastructure, airplanes, employees, or customers, jetblue bought back $1.25 billion in stock, for the sole purpose of raising the share price and executive bonuses? They don't have to raise prices a single cent, even if they paid us Delta + $5. We are profitable enough, the company can afford to pay us industry leading! But we didn't even achieve industry average with this AIP (with regards to rates and raises). Don't worry guy, Timmy's Disney trip won't be affected by your wages, neither will his airfare on jetblue. Why don't you set up a charity that pays $10 towards every jetblue ticket? Just don't drag me into your unwise decisions.
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Old 05-27-2018 | 11:24 AM
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All he does is troll. Here and on BP. He’s a drive by political troller. He adds nothing to the conversation.
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
I think this has to be a troll post. You are willing to work for less than your peers to subsidize ticket prices for customers? Should I remind you that instead of investing $1.25 billion into infrastructure, airplanes, employees, or customers, jetblue bought back $1.25 billion in stock, for the sole purpose of raising the share price and executive bonuses? They don't have to raise prices a single cent, even if they paid us Delta + $5. We are profitable enough, the company can afford to pay us industry leading! But we didn't even achieve industry average with this AIP (with regards to rates and raises). Don't worry guy, Timmy's Disney trip won't be affected by your wages, neither will his airfare on jetblue. Why don't you set up a charity that pays $10 towards every jetblue ticket? Just don't drag me into your unwise decisions.
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Old 05-27-2018 | 11:28 AM
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Fact is you only have a fraction of the facts. The only one trying to sell anyone anything here is you.

Originally Posted by queue
No need to recruit. Facts speak for themselves.


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