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05-29-2018, 10:05 AM
#161
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
My prediction is we announce the fleet review decision at farnborough mid July...maybe before depending on when voting opens. Or perhaps the fleet review details “leak” before or during voting before the official announcement. Lots of 190 guys are not having the AIP’d 190 rates. JetBlue announce a c series order...suddenly 190 guys see the low rates as temporary until they become higher paid c series guys (still low, just not as low). I think that is the strategy to sway the vote when it counts. If there’s an E195E2 announcement, which would indefinitely keep us on these terrible E rates, that may not do well for the company and this vote. I’ll throw an extra bet down and wager the airplane order will be tied to ratification. Right out of F&H’s playbook.
Really or.
We get a large C Oder and start to replace the old 320s and the 190.
The C could be good for 190 guys but bad for bus guys.
05-29-2018, 10:07 AM
#162
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
My prediction is we announce the fleet review decision at farnborough mid July...maybe before depending on when voting opens. Or perhaps the fleet review details “leak” before or during voting before the official announcement. Lots of 190 guys are not having the AIP’d 190 rates. JetBlue announce a c series order...suddenly 190 guys see the low rates as temporary until they become higher paid c series guys (still low, just not as low). I think that is the strategy to sway the vote when it counts. If there’s an E195E2 announcement, which would indefinitely keep us on these terrible E rates, that may not do well for the company and this vote. I’ll throw an extra bet down and wager the airplane order will be tied to ratification. Right out of F&H’s playbook.
05-29-2018, 10:10 AM
#163
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Most other pilot groups are bribed with widebody orders. How "jetblue" to bribe us with a glorified RJ.
05-29-2018, 10:12 AM
#164
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Really or.
We get a large C Oder and start to replace the old 320s and the 190.
The C could be good for 190 guys but bad for bus guys.
We get a large C Oder and start to replace the old 320s and the 190.
The C could be good for 190 guys but bad for bus guys.
If fleet review isn't revealed before the vote, I'm not sure how anyone can't assume the worst.
#wheresthefleetreview
05-29-2018, 10:27 AM
#166
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
But it's probably gonna be announced in July at Farnborough.
But, if it's not, DON'T WORRY. It will be announced at the Paris Show in 2019.
Good things are coming guys!
But, if it's not, DON'T WORRY. It will be announced at the Paris Show in 2019.
Good things are coming guys!
I don't care. FUPM. I just fly the dang things, and I need a contract that compensates me appropriately, in both seats, in both fleets. Who knows where I'll get stuck when the music stops.
05-29-2018, 10:38 AM
#167
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
A C series order isn't necessarily a good thing. They could order 40 to replace our 60 E190s. Or they order 60 C series, to replace 60 E190s and 30 A320s.
I don't care. FUPM. I just fly the dang things, and I need a contract that compensates me appropriately, in both seats, in both fleets. Who knows where I'll get stuck when the music stops.
I don't care. FUPM. I just fly the dang things, and I need a contract that compensates me appropriately, in both seats, in both fleets. Who knows where I'll get stuck when the music stops.
05-29-2018, 10:39 AM
#168
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Also very true.
If fleet review isn't revealed before the vote, I'm not sure how anyone can't assume the worst.
#wheresthefleetreview
If fleet review isn't revealed before the vote, I'm not sure how anyone can't assume the worst.
#wheresthefleetreview
Yup. I absolutely see the scenario where do away with the 190 and the old 320s. Order a mix of C 100/300s
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