"Industry Leading Scope"
05-29-2018 | 06:57 AM
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It’s a domestic code share on paper yes. But it’s an ETOPS route. When we get certified for ETOPS I’d expect us to take back that route. Or maybe there’s a carve out for Hawaii but not CONUS. We’ll know in a few weeks when the full language comes out.
Full disclosure, I learned all of that on bluepilots. A website that has somehow become more civil than this one. Never thought I’d see the day.
Full disclosure, I learned all of that on bluepilots. A website that has somehow become more civil than this one. Never thought I’d see the day.
A carve out for domestic but no carve out for narrow body international is industry leading?
Since the Scope Section and the leaked announcement of the codeshare happened nearly on the same day I would expect this "industry leading scope" to scope-in our code (passengers) domestically on HAL narrow body aircraft.
This focus on uneconomic RJ from Fresno to LAX is just dumb when we ARE codesharing on narrow body domestically.
Just F-dumb!
05-29-2018 | 07:04 AM
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ETOPS is coming.
A carve out for domestic but no carve out for narrow body international is industry leading?
Since the Scope Section and the leaked announcement of the codeshare happened nearly on the same day I would expect this "industry leading scope" to scope-in our code (passengers) domestically on HAL narrow body aircraft.
This focus on uneconomic RJ from Fresno to LAX is just dumb when we ARE codesharing on narrow body domestically.
Just F-dumb!
A carve out for domestic but no carve out for narrow body international is industry leading?
Since the Scope Section and the leaked announcement of the codeshare happened nearly on the same day I would expect this "industry leading scope" to scope-in our code (passengers) domestically on HAL narrow body aircraft.
This focus on uneconomic RJ from Fresno to LAX is just dumb when we ARE codesharing on narrow body domestically.
Just F-dumb!
I don’t disagree. But we don’t know the details yet. For all we know there’s only an allowance for Hawaiian to do LGB-HNL and that’s it.
05-29-2018 | 07:13 AM
#153
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ETOPS is coming.
A carve out for domestic but no carve out for narrow body international is industry leading?
Since the Scope Section and the leaked announcement of the codeshare happened nearly on the same day I would expect this "industry leading scope" to scope-in our code (passengers) domestically on HAL narrow body aircraft.
This focus on uneconomic RJ from Fresno to LAX is just dumb when we ARE codesharing on narrow body domestically.
Just F-dumb!
A carve out for domestic but no carve out for narrow body international is industry leading?
Since the Scope Section and the leaked announcement of the codeshare happened nearly on the same day I would expect this "industry leading scope" to scope-in our code (passengers) domestically on HAL narrow body aircraft.
This focus on uneconomic RJ from Fresno to LAX is just dumb when we ARE codesharing on narrow body domestically.
Just F-dumb!
05-29-2018 | 07:18 AM
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Furlough.
Grow.
Okay sounds great move on ...
But pilot group can still shrink without furloughing. Stop hiring and attrition.
We can reduce fleet numbers and still grow ASMs. 1 A321 for 5-7 E190s
Where is the fleet plan?
05-29-2018 | 08:25 AM
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It will be announced the day after the CBA is ratified. 150 E195-E2s.
Until that day, the C-series is a "done deal".
Until it's not.
05-29-2018 | 08:47 AM
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05-29-2018 | 08:56 AM
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05-29-2018 | 09:03 AM
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My prediction is we announce the fleet review decision at farnborough mid July...maybe before depending on when voting opens. Or perhaps the fleet review details “leak” before or during voting before the official announcement. Lots of 190 guys are not having the AIP’d 190 rates. JetBlue announce a c series order...suddenly 190 guys see the low rates as temporary until they become higher paid c series guys (still low, just not as low). I think that is the strategy to sway the vote when it counts. If there’s an E195E2 announcement, which would indefinitely keep us on these terrible E rates, that may not do well for the company and this vote. I’ll throw an extra bet down and wager the airplane order will be tied to ratification. Right out of F&H’s playbook.
05-29-2018 | 09:17 AM
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My prediction is we announce the fleet review decision at farnborough mid July...maybe before depending on when voting opens. Or perhaps the fleet review details “leak” before or during voting before the official announcement. Lots of 190 guys are not having the AIP’d 190 rates. JetBlue announce a c series order...suddenly 190 guys see the low rates as temporary until they become higher paid c series guys (still low, just not as low). I think that is the strategy to sway the vote when it counts. If there’s an E195E2 announcement, which would indefinitely keep us on these terrible E rates, that may not do well for the company and this vote. I’ll throw an extra bet down and wager the airplane order will be tied to ratification. Right out of F&H’s playbook.
Or, no fleet review until CBA voted in, then E2s. But under this scenario, the C is a "done deal" rumor.
Could go either way.
05-29-2018 | 09:18 AM
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