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Kerizbro 07-29-2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2643558)
Lots has changed.

Here is the Full T/A:

http://jbumec.alpa.org/portals/jbu/ta2018/tentative%20agreement%20-%202018.pdf


Thanks appreciate it

PasserOGas 07-29-2018 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2643558)
Not much has changed.

Here is the Full T/A:

http://jbumec.alpa.org/portals/jbu/ta2018/tentative%20agreement%20-%202018.pdf

Fixed it for you.

seekingblue 07-30-2018 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2645105)
Fixed it for you.

Sigh.

Like this T/A or not, a significant amount has changed.

The pay rates, 401k accrual, reserve rules (come Dec. 31st 2019 or earlier), PTO rates, vacation distribution and bidding etc etc......

nuball5 07-30-2018 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2645167)
Sigh.

Like this T/A or not, a significant amount has changed.

The pay rates, 401k accrual, reserve rules (come Dec. 31st 2019 or earlier), PTO rates, vacation distribution and bidding etc etc......

Why are you wasting your time trying to convince POG it's good? Everyone...yes and no voters have to live with this TA regardless.

seekingblue 07-30-2018 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2645180)
Why are you wasting your time trying to convince POG it's good? Everyone...yes and no voters have to live with this TA regardless.

It's not a matter of good or bad. It is a matter of fact that this TA changes things. Good, bad or otherwise.

Just wanted to give full and accurate information to the APC guys and guys considering coming here.

nuball5 07-30-2018 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2645223)
It's not a matter of good or bad. It is a matter of fact that this TA changes things. Good, bad or otherwise.

Just wanted to give full and accurate information to the APC guys and guys considering coming here.

I get it...I think the TA is solid too. I also think that someone that gets career advice and takes that advice to heart from APC needs to get their head examined. It's a small industry....ask friends that you trust.

Bluedriver 07-30-2018 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2645167)
Sigh.

Like this T/A or not, a significant amount has changed.

The pay rates, 401k accrual, reserve rules (come Dec. 31st 2019 or earlier), PTO rates, vacation distribution and bidding etc etc......

PTO rates didn't really change. Total PTO accrual went up, but their is corresponding increase in the number of hours deducted from your PTO bank for the mandatory vacation, so no increase. Depending on how you previously used your PTO, possibly an overall decrease if you used to bid all 24.5/35 Vaca.

PasserOGas 07-30-2018 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2645167)
Sigh.

Like this T/A or not, a significant amount has changed.

vacation distribution

Fixed it for you. Everything else was a very small increase or a cost neutral shell game.

Bluedriver 07-30-2018 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2645271)
Fixed it for you. Everything else was a very small increase or a cost neutral shell game.

I need to look again, but is the improved distribution starting in 2019?

RiddleEagle18 07-30-2018 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2645292)
I need to look again, but is the improved distribution starting in 2019?



Round bidding and even distributed within the month start for the 2019 vacation bid.(October 2018)


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