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Old 07-07-2018 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Yep. A lot of internet tough guys out there.
On the other hand, it doesn't take a lot of courage to just fall in line and swallow.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 02:09 PM
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Just attended a roadshow with a hardcore no voter.

After seeing the process that was followed and asking his questions (which were very tough on the NC guys) and having them throughly explained..... he voted yes.

To the no voters among us:

Go to a roadshow. Tell them the TA is crap and let them convince you otherwise. Ask your hard questions. Don’t pull punches. It made me a stronger yes vote and changed my friends mind. If you still want to vote no I respect that completely.

Please do this. You owe it to yourself and the pilot group
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Old 07-07-2018 | 02:21 PM
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I went to the jfk road show and I’m still voting no. My reasons, my choice, my vote.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
I went to the jfk road show and I’m still voting no. My reasons, my choice, my vote.
Respect that.

Please be sure to vote (you can submit now on the TA site.)
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Old 07-07-2018 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
Respect that.

Please be sure to vote (you can submit now on the TA site.)
In the end we're all on the same team
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Old 07-07-2018 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
In the end we're all on the same team
Wish more people viewed it this way.
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Old 07-07-2018 | 09:09 PM
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I have to vote no. The FO OE pairings is killing me and I don’t ever get paired with check airmen. It usurps seniority for everyone, not just the check airmen bidders. Bonus distribution is a slap in the face of everyone but 12 yr guys. Scope language allowing unlimited codeshare with 1 and 1, What?! Middle finger to every E-190 guy who remained for QOL. 300$ seed money, that’s it? Still have huge deductibles and that max out of pocket. Wasn’t this the scale tipping problem that resulted in ALPA being on property? This is okay with everyone that was TOed then, not I. Reserve language is great if you’re the senior guys on reserve. Everyone that has made it here is a professional and should be treated as such. These reserve rules don’t improve life for all reserves, just a few. Good luck everyone, my conscience says NO.
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Old 07-08-2018 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Runningscared
I have to vote no. The FO OE pairings is killing me and I don’t ever get paired with check airmen. It usurps seniority for everyone, not just the check airmen bidders. Bonus distribution is a slap in the face of everyone but 12 yr guys. Scope language allowing unlimited codeshare with 1 and 1, What?! Middle finger to every E-190 guy who remained for QOL. 300$ seed money, that’s it? Still have huge deductibles and that max out of pocket. Wasn’t this the scale tipping problem that resulted in ALPA being on property? This is okay with everyone that was TOed then, not I. Reserve language is great if you’re the senior guys on reserve. Everyone that has made it here is a professional and should be treated as such. These reserve rules don’t improve life for all reserves, just a few. Good luck everyone, my conscience says NO.

RS, take a look at the BOS video at the 1:23:58 where witholding OE pairings are addressed. It’s not as bad and you can understand the justification. The parings most FO’s desire should be saved.
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Old 07-08-2018 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Runningscared
I have to vote no. The FO OE pairings is killing me and I don’t ever get paired with check airmen. It usurps seniority for everyone, not just the check airmen bidders. Bonus distribution is a slap in the face of everyone but 12 yr guys. Scope language allowing unlimited codeshare with 1 and 1, What?! Middle finger to every E-190 guy who remained for QOL. 300$ seed money, that’s it? Still have huge deductibles and that max out of pocket. Wasn’t this the scale tipping problem that resulted in ALPA being on property? This is okay with everyone that was TOed then, not I. Reserve language is great if you’re the senior guys on reserve. Everyone that has made it here is a professional and should be treated as such. These reserve rules don’t improve life for all reserves, just a few. Good luck everyone, my conscience says NO.
What you say is very valid.

I’d just like to add that the extra day off for SCL will really improve QOL for most folks. Also, the trigger to remove SCL RSV days @ 75 hours is a plus as well. The scheduling section is the single best part of this contract.
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Old 07-08-2018 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
What you say is very valid.

I’d just like to add that the extra day off for SCL will really improve QOL for most folks. Also, the trigger to remove SCL RSV days @ 75 hours is a plus as well. The scheduling section is the single best part of this contract.
Least we forget 1000 start day one. I’m sorry but rsv improvements are across the board. Not just because some senior guys may be able to bypass flying. Also the alt DH provision will be especially useful to rsv commuters.
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