JetBlue Selects Airbus A220-300
07-11-2018, 08:00 AM
#111
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: A320 right
Posts: 79
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Seems that you skipped over a lot of good points that Navy made...
1. Regional airlines are becoming much more expensive to operate because of much higher pilot salaries due to shortage of pilots, which will only get worse. It's a stretch to even suggest they can staff all the RJs currently under contract.
2. Our slots are maxed out.
3. Our other hubs are heavily gate restricted, and getting worse.
4. If you thought JB was having operational problems before this TA, there would be a literal nuclear detonation if JB tried to outsource the A220 to a regional during negotiations for TA2. Even our management wouldn't be that stupid.
5. Delta has 75 A220s and 50 options on order, so your last statement is incorrect.
6. This scope doesn't keep all flying in-house either. It has virtually unlimited domestic and international codesharing. You have us confused with Southwest.
1. Regional airlines are becoming much more expensive to operate because of much higher pilot salaries due to shortage of pilots, which will only get worse. It's a stretch to even suggest they can staff all the RJs currently under contract.
2. Our slots are maxed out.
3. Our other hubs are heavily gate restricted, and getting worse.
4. If you thought JB was having operational problems before this TA, there would be a literal nuclear detonation if JB tried to outsource the A220 to a regional during negotiations for TA2. Even our management wouldn't be that stupid.
5. Delta has 75 A220s and 50 options on order, so your last statement is incorrect.
6. This scope doesn't keep all flying in-house either. It has virtually unlimited domestic and international codesharing. You have us confused with Southwest.
My point was completely the fact that a parent company WILL absolutely find someone to find the airplanes.
07-11-2018, 08:03 AM
#112
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by flyboygt
Did you work there when it happend in a little late 90's... ?
07-11-2018, 08:08 AM
#114
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by flyboygt
I'm not doing over anything,, sorry I'm misinformed about Delta's orders.
My point was completely the fact that a parent company WILL absolutely find someone to find the airplanes.
My point was completely the fact that a parent company WILL absolutely find someone to find the airplanes.
This place would DETONATE if they tried to outsource the A220 during TA2 negotiations. And management knows it. Our group was finally getting fed up leading up to the May negotiations and summer, and is the primary reason for the TA timing. It would be 10 times worse for the company if they tried to outsource the A220.
With that said, my current prediction is A321LR announcement on or around the Farnborough air show and the TA passing, so this discussion is mostly just pilots talking on a message board at this point.
07-11-2018, 08:09 AM
#115
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by The701Express
Are you trying to conjure thewang? Because I'm pretty sure this is how you conjure thewang.
07-11-2018, 08:35 AM
#116
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
Originally Posted by flyboygt
Did you work there when it happend in the late 90's... ?
07-11-2018, 08:46 AM
#119
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 4
Amendable
Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
I’m very happy with this order. Hopefully it shows me the ELT isn’t as short sighted as they seemed. This order shouldn’t make anyone change their mind on the ta since by the time this contract is done we will have 9 planes on property.
07-11-2018, 08:56 AM
#120
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,473
Originally Posted by capn a220
A CBA never expires. It just becomes amendable. If we have a new contract and there are only 9 planes on property, 51 on order and none configured for more than 135 seats, I’ll buy you a 🍺. If we don’t fix this now, we’ll regret it later. It’s as simple as that.
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