Staffing for new CBA.
07-21-2018, 03:26 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 491
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Pretty sure he wouldn’t just blurt out merger plans before they’re announced, but I do agree that UA and JB most likely will not merge in the next decade.
07-21-2018, 03:57 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by O2pilot
New hire classes have been rapid fire with over 35+ pilots in each class. So I don’t think we would be hiring like this if we were on the verge of buying another airline.
Heck some of the big guys were hiring right before they furloughed.
Anyway even if if if a merger happens hiring has nothing to do with it. It would be a long time till the lists were merged.
Just saying I doubt it happens and reading your other posts you certainly are not a fan of jetblue. But because Kirby told you something or you guys are hiring in no way means it could not happen we are also hiring. It’s really going to depend on what Wall St wants and you and I are along for the ride.
07-21-2018, 04:02 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
Originally Posted by CanoeBum
The guys dropping on the trade board probably won’t have much trouble doing so if the predictions of less OT being available are true. The Greedy pilots we have here won’t be able to help themselves. Example, similar to now when a senior pilot takes all the summer vacation slots and gives them to their junior buddy: Nothing stops a deal between guys bidding a week of vacation and having their junior pal that wants that week off and flys min schedule anyway to bid to work it, then the senior guy can take the junior guys trips off the trade board and still get his 150% addiction fed. My point is there are ways to exploit the system and more of them will come out as we adjust to the new normal.
- BJ controls staffing levels.
- BJ controls reserve coverage levels.
- Dinosaur pilots will always bid whatever they want.
- Dinosaur pilots will always be able to trade away good trips via tradeboard because they already got the good trips.
- Junior/middle pilots will have bad trips that no one will want to pick up and will be stuck being unable to trade away or drop due to insufficient reserve coverage.
Why not negotiate a new proposal: let anyone take vacation time whenever they want. If the pilot numbers are insufficient, keep increasing compensation until someone bites in open-time (to be locked in 3 at least 3 days prior). Maximum compensation of 10x normal pay is allowed. Ad-hoc pairings starting at home blue city are allowed. If no one bites at 10x pay up to required pilot levels, then start drafting from the bottom of the seniority list and work upwards. I guarantee you there's enough juicers that will bite at 2-3x pay. They won't even get to 10x.
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