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Old 07-24-2018 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Forget the stock price. It could have gone up today and given what was said I’d be cautious moving forward in terms of what deals I think the company will offer us moving forward.
It could have gone up today? How so. The company just gave awful guidance. They basically are going to have to rely on selling more snack boxes and credit card offers to make more revenue
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Old 07-24-2018 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
Sorry but I have no respect for people that make decisions out of fear. Vote for it by all means if you think it’s a good deal, if it’s good for your family, I respect that.
But heck I’ll keep going since we have a bunch spinless pilots at this company. Not everyone,but some. Arguing if we should dumpster dive or not. That’s what we’ve been reduced to? I’ll tell you first hand I married my wife out fear of never getting laid again. I know right. Flame away

I don't vote of fear at all. I vote on haves and have nots. I have read it in its entirety, went to one of the road shows, watched all videos, read FAQ's, talked to plenty of pilots. I don't care how pilots vote but that they are educated before they do so is all I ask.

The NO voters divide by not respecting the process and telling us how to vote and how stupid we are if we don't vote the way they want us.....Why not respect the process (not talking to you directly)? Do you think that helps the cause or alienates your hopeful outcome?

There are plenty that became a pilot so I could finally not be a Virgin pilot.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
For people smarter than I-

Why aren’t we actively hedging fuel? I understand you can hedge to much and at too high of a price. But why not hedge 20-25% and try and stabilize our future fuel costs?
Why do we worry about fuel prices? We can't even get one of these things in the air.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
1. Maybe the numbers are massaged to look scary as vote closes?

2. We are a highly leisure carrier, Easter peak travel moved to Q1, it moves from Q1 to Q2 and back from year to year, always helps or hurts. So the comparison to a year ago looks worse than it is.

3. Fuel up 40%.

4. Other carriers have significant reduced margins this quarter, yes ours is worse, but for us being highly leisure, back to point 2 regarding Easter peak travel this year.

5. Our operational performance has been SO BAD, thanks to our management, that of course many premium fare passengers have begun to book away from JB.

I believe we do much better for the 3rd quarter.

Chicken littles need not run around scared screaming yet. But then again, with this leadership...
Well said bluedriver. Pilots amaze me. We are literally paid to stay calm and think critically and yet we seem to be the first to scream omg it’s all over. We did beat the estimates and jetblue even forecasted this. This should not be a massive shock.

Totally agree about the “leadership” part
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AMC190
This ship is sinking very slowly!!! Time to jump !!!
Same thing has been said for 18ish years.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Free ride? Oh right... next year we have to start paying for maintenance on our airbus fleet. that's gonna suck.
Come on don’t you like when Adela pilots decide to go slumming and play down here with us jetblue guys
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
After seeing earnings i agree with you. You guys would be crazy not to accept this TA.
But what dose Kirby think?

Anyway gentlemen vote how you would like. I would not let this q report freak you out. Vote based on the TA and if it’s acceptable to you. Jetblue is finically sound one ehhh q is not going to kill us.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Why do we worry about fuel prices? We can't even get one of these things in the air.
We can't even get airplanes catered...
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
We can't even get airplanes catered...
Sure we can it just takes a really long time. Good thing giggity loves short turn times. They are so freaking stubborn it’s simply amazing.
Change when we can drop the brake and add some turn time and maybe recouple the 190 crews and bang most of our issues are fixed.
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Old 07-24-2018 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Sure we can it just takes a really long time. Good thing giggity loves short turn times. They are so freaking stubborn it’s simply amazing.
Change when we can drop the brake and add some turn time and maybe recouple the 190 crews and bang most of our issues are fixed.
You didn't mention planting an extra row of blue-potatoes!

Man, you are NOT JB leader(sunken)ship material.
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