pickleford

I can understand why you're ****ed, but by keeping them out of the jumpseat you lose the opportunity to give them an education. From the sounds of it that poor SOB was drowning in a blue river and needed rescuing.

kinetic

I can appreciate your disdain for the Boneheads lack of class. But do you think 1200 other Pilots deserve to held accountable for him. We probably don't like him too much either. Your stance is real Redneck like.

kinetic

Flybywire is a liar.

FlyByWire

Less and less folks will be getting jumpseats on union carriers. It's been done before, and there is a movement to do it again. crawdawg52 is not the only one of a growing group that is starting to wake up, and the letters to the various MEC's are flying. Just give it time but it is inevitable now.

dckozak

Are we back to giving JB pilots shi*. Oh come on, we're above that, aren't we. Regarding JB pilots jumpseating. I've had 3 in the last month, one guy, two who weren't. Oh those two, one might not be and the other... well she could ride in my cockpit any time.

HSLD

Now that you have everyone's attention, would you be so kind as to link to, post, reference, or otherwise substantiate your claim? I consider myself pretty well dialed into jumpseat issues, as in really dialed in, and I haven't heard anything remotely related to your claims.

Of all the Jumpseat coordinators that I talk to, not one is in line with your "movement". Bring on the proof please.

All the best -

FlyByWire

The proof is in the puddin man, more and more Captains are saying NO. It is not the Jumpseat coordinators that say yes or no it is the captains final decision. This is the grass roots effort. When the Jumpseat coordinators starts to see this shift it will be the form of an official letter. It is not that far along yet NO, I give you that, but it will be in good time. NWA has the largest group of Captains doing this now with Delta a close second. UAL is a bit behind now, but eventually they will move with it. Just wait till the end of the year, this effort was just started in November 2005.

banger

I jump on DAL all the time and they are very good hosts to jetBlue and other carriers. Here at jetBlue we provide many DAL and other pilots from the upstate NY region rides to NYC. Your posts are childish and an embarrasssment to the pilot profession. Good luck to you sir.

diamonddd

It's true. It is just secret, for now. It is a special initiative formed by a small group of disgruntled airline pilots, in an effort to get back to being gruntled. I, through secret chanels, have broken into this small group. The newsletter is tastefully done, and the meetings are bi-weekly. There is one tonight, and I am taking s'mores. During the last meeting, there were other proposed "Grass-roots" proposals. One being that the code word should be "grass-roots". Another proposal was to try and get schoolyard bullys to threaten the children of JetBlue pilots at school. Tonights key note speaker will give a very professional briefing entitled "Glass Home Ownership: It IS OK to throw stones" with a follow up speech entitled: "Internet argueing: It CAN Bring Pride and a Feeling of Self Worth (when nothing else does)"

Also at tonight's meeting, after the "old business" the "New Business" will be trying to blame this weekends Snowstorm on a rake I found in my garage.

RedeyeAV8r

[QUOTE=greedyairlineexec]union afiliation gives no priority when jumpseating. obviously, pilots from the airline you jump on have priority, but if you are cass you can ride the cockpit,so your options are good. remember that if you jump on any airline and a pilot for that airline has bump you off the jump seat, just go ask him to write a pass and let you use the jump seat. i don't know of any case where anyone said no. QUOTE]

That is not exactly true...................The CAPT Always has the final word on who jumpseats in his/her cockpit! Union affiliation often does matter. I remember trying to jumpseat home from Honolulu on United several years ago. There were 4 of us trying to get on (none of us were United). There were only 2 Jumpseats seats.
The CAPT Looked at us and said ALPA guys have first priority and if you are all ALPA it goes by Date of Hire.

Before I was hired at Purple/orange, I remember some FDX guys in Blue shirts (3 of them) were trying to jump from Miami to NYC. At that time FDX was not union, but 1 of the FDX guys was ALPA Assoc member from Tigers. The CAPT let all 3 of them on...........but the 2 non-union guys sat in the cockpit and the ALPA assoc member sat back in first class.

Union membership does have it's priviledges....................after all it was ALPA who got interline jumpseating in the first place!