So much for "industry leading" pairings.
09-12-2018 | 07:30 AM
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Maybe our signals are getting crossed or I misunderstood your post. If so, I apologize.
I also knew what JB was when I got hired (in some ways, had to learn the hard way in other ways). But! JB didn't stay the same either! It has continually slowed it's growth rate and deferred aircraft orders from what they sold me at the interview. Ok, boo hoo poor me, shouldn't have believed their words or their ORDER BOOK! But I am going to ***** about it, because, well, I'm a pilot!
They also unilaterally took away the premium pay above 78 hours and the annual pay review (the combination of the two especially) that were policy when I got hired. Those are big deals, so to me the "you knew this place when you got hired" doesn't really work for me.
But, nothing stays the same...
I also knew what JB was when I got hired (in some ways, had to learn the hard way in other ways). But! JB didn't stay the same either! It has continually slowed it's growth rate and deferred aircraft orders from what they sold me at the interview. Ok, boo hoo poor me, shouldn't have believed their words or their ORDER BOOK! But I am going to ***** about it, because, well, I'm a pilot!
They also unilaterally took away the premium pay above 78 hours and the annual pay review (the combination of the two especially) that were policy when I got hired. Those are big deals, so to me the "you knew this place when you got hired" doesn't really work for me.
But, nothing stays the same...
09-12-2018 | 08:04 AM
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I'm not trying to throw it in anyone's face. We're not retiring hundreds of guys because of who we are. We're a different company in a different stage of life than the legacy carriers. I'm the last one to say if you don't like it leave, but seriously? We aren't growing explosively because we almost grew into bankruptcy 10-11years ago and taking 30 planes a year on an immature route structure nearly killed us.
don't take my sarcasm as a shot. it's more of a friendly rib. This place is like a frat house bar for me man. Come share bîtch moan, poke fun, have simatic arguments with no true right or wrong answers... but we're all here sucking up the suck together.
don't take my sarcasm as a shot. it's more of a friendly rib. This place is like a frat house bar for me man. Come share bîtch moan, poke fun, have simatic arguments with no true right or wrong answers... but we're all here sucking up the suck together.
We went from taking 30 planes a year with a fleet of 30-40 aircraft to taking 10 planes a year with a fleet of 250 aircraft! Where's the middle-ground Batman!?!
Back to our regularly scheduled JetBlue's the bomb programming!
09-12-2018 | 08:39 AM
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I hear ya. I just reject the "we almost grew ourselves into BK" because we've swung too far the other direction...
We went from taking 30 planes a year with a fleet of 30-40 aircraft to taking 10 planes a year with a fleet of 250 aircraft! Where's the middle-ground Batman!?!
Back to our regularly scheduled JetBlue's the bomb programming!
We went from taking 30 planes a year with a fleet of 30-40 aircraft to taking 10 planes a year with a fleet of 250 aircraft! Where's the middle-ground Batman!?!
Back to our regularly scheduled JetBlue's the bomb programming!
09-12-2018 | 08:46 AM
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If we took more aircraft at this point, we'd just connect more existing blue-cities INTA-Dominican Republic. Our typical work day would be SDQ-STI-SDQ-PUJ-STI-POP-SDQ layover, repeat.
09-12-2018 | 09:30 AM
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09-12-2018 | 10:15 AM
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09-13-2018 | 05:50 AM
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maybe a little 
We're all a product of our seniority and perspective. If you came here with the idea that we were gonna buy 100 planes next year and tripple in size in 3 you'd be a captain in 6months and have a delta 777 schedule... what were you thinking??
I know that's dramatic, but seriously the way some of us carry on here is like there was zero perspective at all coming into this gig. This wasn't a one war fight. it's not a sprint. UAL DAL and AA all have contract issues and they're on contracts 5?10?15? I have no idea. Take you're issues to the union. Get involved and facilitate change. That's all we've been able to do since the JBPA push in 07. win some lose some.
We're all a product of our seniority and perspective. If you came here with the idea that we were gonna buy 100 planes next year and tripple in size in 3 you'd be a captain in 6months and have a delta 777 schedule... what were you thinking??
I know that's dramatic, but seriously the way some of us carry on here is like there was zero perspective at all coming into this gig. This wasn't a one war fight. it's not a sprint. UAL DAL and AA all have contract issues and they're on contracts 5?10?15? I have no idea. Take you're issues to the union. Get involved and facilitate change. That's all we've been able to do since the JBPA push in 07. win some lose some.
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