What staffing increase?
10-08-2018, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DJIA
What does monthly attrition look like? Are there lots of FO’s on bottom of the list moving to the majors? Cargo?
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10-08-2018, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Jetblue loses about 100 per year prior to the signing of the contract. Post contract we will see. The company expects much less.
You will see a little relative seniority movement from our slow growth, but very very little.
10-09-2018, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HandyUghes
As a percentage of the whole, is this not so different from the legacies?
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It’s way lower.
American is retiring close to 800 this year. That’s about 9% of their entire list and it continues this way for several year for a total of 50% within 10 years.
It will take JB almost a decade to retire 9% let alone 50%!
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10-09-2018, 04:46 AM
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What staffing increase?
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
It’s way lower.
American is retiring close to 800 this year. That’s about 9% of their entire list and it continues this way for several year for a total of 50% within 10 years.
It will take JB almost a decade to retire 9% let alone 50%!
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American is retiring close to 800 this year. That’s about 9% of their entire list and it continues this way for several year for a total of 50% within 10 years.
It will take JB almost a decade to retire 9% let alone 50%!
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According to the chart, we’re at ~20% by 2029 and 65% by 2039. We ramp up later, but that’s not nothing.
Edit: Just added the retirement numbers from the AA profile here. They’ll retire ~63% in the next ten years, then the retirements drop off when ours start ramping up. It’s no different than JB, just delayed.
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10-09-2018, 05:04 AM
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What staffing increase?
Originally Posted by HandyUghes
According to the chart, we’re at ~20% by 2029 and 65% by 2039. We ramp up later, but that’s not nothing.
Edit: Just added the retirement numbers from the AA profile here. They’ll retire ~63% in the next ten years, then the retirements drop off when ours start ramping up. It’s no different than JB, just delayed.
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Edit: Just added the retirement numbers from the AA profile here. They’ll retire ~63% in the next ten years, then the retirements drop off when ours start ramping up. It’s no different than JB, just delayed.
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Cool yea if a DECADE isn’t a big deal to you. Hell its only a third of your career.
Here is JB real cumulative numbers based on last system bid of 3682 pilots
2019- .2%
2020- .8%
2021- 1.65%
2022- 2.66%
2023- 3.77%
2024- 5.56%
2025- 7.7%
2026- 9.4%
2027- 11.9%
2028- 15.3%
So you’ve finally made it off reserve. Meanwhile your buddies at AA are already lineholding narrowbody captains.
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10-09-2018, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Cool yea if a DECADE isn’t a big deal to you. Hell its only a third of your career.
Here is JB real cumulative numbers based on last system bid of 3682 pilots
2019- .2%
2020- .8%
2021- 1.65%
2022- 2.66%
2023- 3.77%
2024- 5.56%
2025- 7.7%
2026- 9.4%
2027- 11.9%
2028- 15.3%
So you’ve finally made it off reserve. Meanwhile your buddies at AA are already lineholding narrowbody captains.
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Here is JB real cumulative numbers based on last system bid of 3682 pilots
2019- .2%
2020- .8%
2021- 1.65%
2022- 2.66%
2023- 3.77%
2024- 5.56%
2025- 7.7%
2026- 9.4%
2027- 11.9%
2028- 15.3%
So you’ve finally made it off reserve. Meanwhile your buddies at AA are already lineholding narrowbody captains.
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How are guys holding a line in under a decade, then? Something seems wrong with that.
10-09-2018, 06:15 AM
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What staffing increase?
Growth, but we are one hiccup away from an Alaska like stagnation from 2001-2015.
You can come to JB and HOPE growth continues and you make your top earnings potential as narrow body Captain in 10 years, or you can go to UAL/AA/DAL and KNOW, because of retirements, you will make narrow body captain and still have room to further grow your earnings potential by another 70k a year on a widebody.
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You can come to JB and HOPE growth continues and you make your top earnings potential as narrow body Captain in 10 years, or you can go to UAL/AA/DAL and KNOW, because of retirements, you will make narrow body captain and still have room to further grow your earnings potential by another 70k a year on a widebody.
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10-09-2018, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Growth, but we are one hiccup away from an Alaska like stagnation from 2001-2015.
You can come to JB and HOPE growth continues and you make your top earnings potential as narrow body Captain in 10 years, or you can go to UAL/AA/DAL and KNOW, because of retirements, you will make narrow body captain and still have room to further grow your earnings potential by another 70k a year on a widebody.
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You can come to JB and HOPE growth continues and you make your top earnings potential as narrow body Captain in 10 years, or you can go to UAL/AA/DAL and KNOW, because of retirements, you will make narrow body captain and still have room to further grow your earnings potential by another 70k a year on a widebody.
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Retirements do you nothing if the list shrinks.
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