Gone Flying

UA has no time limit, I've been bumped off 5 prior. I've heard of guys getting bumped on a return to gate.

CanoeBum

Man that does suck, not sure where I got them at 15 then. It would be worth a chat with that CA if someone pulled a D move like that though for sure.

capt707

Commuting on JB is just fine, if we are somewhat on time. Last summer my commute was constantly late... by hours, mostly for dumb sh!t.... late catering, no inflight crewmember, plane swaps, maintenance and weather where the plane will never catch up as it is doing 35 mins turn all day. I always ended up just commuting offline, still do about 80% of the time.

dingo222

Your biggest issue commuting on Jetblue is going to be something called Culture. I’m sitting here typing this because this is the 10th commute I’ve missed in four months because the airplane pushed at least 15 early. I got to the gate 18 prior to departure today to find the aircraft gone. This was after I emailed the crew and said I’d be landing about 30 prior to push.

Here at JB we have culture. A culture of screwing each other over every time. I bet that crew lands at destination 30 early today and blue gloves the F out of the airplane. So if you plan on commuting on JB, expect to get left behind. It’s our culture.

pilotpayne

I can’t tell you the many times guys have waited for me or I have waited for them. Heck I have even had gate agents in Bos go way above to get me on (thanks Juan). We all have an issue but in my experience the crews tend to watch out for each other. At least I do and everyone I have ever emailed has.

I’m sorry that happened to you but man you have bad luck I can’t remember the last time we pushed even 5 early.

capt707

That is some BS! I’ve only had to email the crew a few times, and the majority of time they all waited and looked to make sure I got on. I recall only one time I got left behind by a crew, both happened to be non-commuters, which might have explained why.

What drives me nuts is when working a flight and the gate agent comes on with all the paperwork and asks if we are ready to go, and I look up at the Screens and see -00:19 mins to departure and you tell me 2 pax won’t make it. I know you can close the flight 15 mins early, but if you are down here at 19 prior, you are not closing 15 early you closed probably at 20 early.

benzoate

I wait every time if I can. 9/10 times if you explain the predicament to the gate agent everyone makes it work. If not there is always a small MX delay that can be taken, the code is sent IAW the FOM and you never hear a word. Truthfully, the issue becomes when some of our egomaniac captains demand/demean the agents and then the whole gig falls apart.
Sheet, I even had one say NO once to which I explained what if it had been her. Everything worked out fine.

BeatNavy

The only time it was ever close for me I emailed both pilots, multiple times, with updates...and they read them all. They didn’t wait. Closed 17 early. I banged on the jetbridge and another gate agent just sitting in a chair on her phone called ops and let me down and they reopened the plane and reattached the jetbridge for me. Still pushed 7 early and landed 30 early. This is all after calling the gate assignments number in JFK earlier trying to get my arrival gate and my commute gate closer together, sending email updates as soon as I was about to take off and as soon as I landed, calling ops on the ground as soon as we pulled in telling them that I was running and would make it. No one except for that one gate agent who let me down cared. Flight deck door never opened and I ran to my seat. The real kick in the junk was the 2 lanyardless pilots who I talked to on the way out who had some made up BS story about how they were tracking my flight but must m have been tracking the wrong one. It was BS bc I gave the flight number, city pair, ETD/ATD and ETA/ATA real time, and they said they saw my emails but just didn’t think there was any way I could make it. Oh and I was the last flight from where I was, so them tracking a later flight didn’t check. Their stories changed mid-convo and were nonsensical. Not only did they not wait, I caught them in a poorly constructed lie. I sarcastically said some words and left shaking my head.

But since then I don’t trust some of our pilot group. Especially ones without lanyards (little different now that negotiations are over, but the point stands at that time)...they are all out for themselves. We have some good dudes here. Most guys here are. Even the resident “keeps getting better” guy is a great dude who goes out of his way to help pilots out. But we have some that will absolutely screw you for no reason and who care about no one besides themselves. That said, I’m sure that it’s no different here than other airlines. I’ve seen that trait in people from all walks of life and at every organization of which I’ve been a part...airline, private sector business, military, etc. I just hope they aren’t driving my commute plane when it’s tight.

ShyGuy

I'm a S8W as an OAL. What is a S8X ? Is that a jetBlue pilot? FA?


How do I tell if there's a jetBlue pilot ahead of me? There is one other S8X above me and 2 S8X.

18 open seats as of now so I should be okay, but still wondering.

HB Pilot

S4W = JetBlue Pilot. S4X = JetBlue Flight Attendant.
S8W = OAL Pilot. S8X = OAL Flight Attendant (cabin seat only).