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PasserOGas 02-14-2019 04:03 PM

Meanwhile at Delta....
 
https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-profit-sharing-valentines-day/

Strange that they can be so profitable while paying their employees. The share holders must really hate all this success.

If only they would follow Jetblue's amazing model, then it would be off to the races.

disenchantMINT 02-15-2019 05:26 AM

But JB allows its employees to fly in Mint for free! What's that, Delta already gives their employees free upgrades?

Oh.

But JB gives us a free shuttle from Kew Gardens to JFK! What's that, Delta does that too? AND a shuttle to LGA?

Oh.

But... JB added additional nail polish colors to the approved list.

That makes up for getting swindled and lied to by JB management, right?

benzoate 02-15-2019 05:43 AM

The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.

BunkerF16 02-15-2019 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2764635)
The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.


JB views their employees as cost lines on some accountant's spreadsheet. Nothing more.

Big E 757 02-15-2019 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2764635)
The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.

It wasn’t always this way. There was a time in 2004-2007, when we were admiring Southwest Management and thinking about them, the same way you’re looking at Delta management now.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great place to work now, and Flight Ops says they’ll always have our back, but it might only last until the next downturn. Who knows. Good luck to you guys.

DWC CAP10 USAF 02-16-2019 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by disenchantMINT (Post 2764619)

But JB gives us a free shuttle from Kew Gardens to JFK! What's that, Delta does that too? AND a shuttle to LGA?

The Kew runner shuttle is paid for by inflight for the FA’s. Pilots can only ride if there is a seat available after all the FA’s have been accommodated. I’ve spent many mornings standing at the 7-11 only to have no seats and have to call a Uber or taxi.

And the shuttle isn’t free...the FA’s and pilots have to mandatory tip $1. 🤑

PasserOGas 02-16-2019 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2765159)
The Kew runner shuttle is paid for by inflight for the FA’s. Pilots can only ride if there is a seat available after all the FA’s have been accommodated. I’ve spent many mornings standing at the 7-11 only to have no seats and have to call a Uber or taxi.

And the shuttle isn’t free...the FA’s and pilots have to mandatory tip $1. 🤑

Write me a $50k PS check and cancel the Kew shuttle. I'll manage.

GuppyPuppy 02-17-2019 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2764635)
The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.

Truth!

Especially the last sentence.

Gup

DWC CAP10 USAF 02-17-2019 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2765267)
Write me a $50k PS check and cancel the Kew shuttle. I'll manage.

$50K?!?! What do you think I am, a WB Captain???

Us lowly NB FO’s are only getting $12-14K (insert the “I’m trying to be funny / ball buster” emoji).

PasserOGas 02-17-2019 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2765698)
$50K?!?! What do you think I am, a WB Captain???

Us lowly NB FO’s are only getting $12-14K (insert the “I’m trying to be funny / ball buster” emoji).

I thought it was 15%? Most CAs gross around $300k (more at DAL I'd imagine.) 😂


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