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Old 02-14-2019 | 04:03 PM
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https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-profit-sharing-valentines-day/

Strange that they can be so profitable while paying their employees. The share holders must really hate all this success.

If only they would follow Jetblue's amazing model, then it would be off to the races.
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Old 02-15-2019 | 05:26 AM
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But JB allows its employees to fly in Mint for free! What's that, Delta already gives their employees free upgrades?

Oh.

But JB gives us a free shuttle from Kew Gardens to JFK! What's that, Delta does that too? AND a shuttle to LGA?

Oh.

But... JB added additional nail polish colors to the approved list.

That makes up for getting swindled and lied to by JB management, right?
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Old 02-15-2019 | 05:43 AM
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The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.
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Old 02-15-2019 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.

JB views their employees as cost lines on some accountant's spreadsheet. Nothing more.
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Old 02-15-2019 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.
It wasn’t always this way. There was a time in 2004-2007, when we were admiring Southwest Management and thinking about them, the same way you’re looking at Delta management now.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great place to work now, and Flight Ops says they’ll always have our back, but it might only last until the next downturn. Who knows. Good luck to you guys.
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Old 02-16-2019 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT

But JB gives us a free shuttle from Kew Gardens to JFK! What's that, Delta does that too? AND a shuttle to LGA?
The Kew runner shuttle is paid for by inflight for the FA’s. Pilots can only ride if there is a seat available after all the FA’s have been accommodated. I’ve spent many mornings standing at the 7-11 only to have no seats and have to call a Uber or taxi.

And the shuttle isn’t free...the FA’s and pilots have to mandatory tip $1. 🤑
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Old 02-16-2019 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
The Kew runner shuttle is paid for by inflight for the FA’s. Pilots can only ride if there is a seat available after all the FA’s have been accommodated. I’ve spent many mornings standing at the 7-11 only to have no seats and have to call a Uber or taxi.

And the shuttle isn’t free...the FA’s and pilots have to mandatory tip $1. 🤑
Write me a $50k PS check and cancel the Kew shuttle. I'll manage.
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Old 02-17-2019 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
The fundamental difference between a carrier like Delta and what ever Jetblue is boils down to one.simple.principle.

Delta views its employees as assets, Jetblue views it employees as liabilities. That will never change. Delta admitted to learning from its mistakes. Jetblue arrogance dictates it doesn't make mistakes.
Truth!

Especially the last sentence.

Gup
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Old 02-17-2019 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Write me a $50k PS check and cancel the Kew shuttle. I'll manage.
$50K?!?! What do you think I am, a WB Captain???

Us lowly NB FO’s are only getting $12-14K (insert the “I’m trying to be funny / ball buster” emoji).
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Old 02-17-2019 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
$50K?!?! What do you think I am, a WB Captain???

Us lowly NB FO’s are only getting $12-14K (insert the “I’m trying to be funny / ball buster” emoji).
I thought it was 15%? Most CAs gross around $300k (more at DAL I'd imagine.) 😂
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