JetBlue set to launch London to US flights
04-10-2019, 03:03 PM
#351
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Wow! What were people expecting from this meeting? Did anyone who joined JB in the last 5-10 years expect to be flying JB to London someday? Perhaps in the last few years with the rumors about London, but did anyone expect it when joining a few years back when JB was primarily a domestic and Caribbean operator? Probably very few people. So, why the let down? Back then I would never associate JB with transatlantic flying - so, I’d personally view this type of additional flying as a bonus (at least for the super senior pilots who can bid it). It just surprises me because JB is clearly not a legacy with huge route variety - we are talking apples and oranges in terms of route profiles and I would expect people to know that when they signed up.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
04-10-2019, 03:19 PM
#352
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Wow! What were people expecting from this meeting? Did anyone who joined JB in the last 5-10 years expect to be flying JB to London someday? Perhaps in the last few years with the rumors about London, but did anyone expect it when joining a few years back when JB was primarily a domestic and Caribbean operator? Probably very few people. So, why the let down? Back then I would never associate JB with transatlantic flying - so, I’d personally view this type of additional flying as a bonus (at least for the super senior pilots who can bid it). It just surprises me because JB is clearly not a legacy with huge route variety - we are talking apples and oranges in terms of route profiles and I would expect people to know that when they signed up.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
04-10-2019, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Wow! What were people expecting from this meeting? Did anyone who joined JB in the last 5-10 years expect to be flying JB to London someday? Perhaps in the last few years with the rumors about London, but did anyone expect it when joining a few years back when JB was primarily a domestic and Caribbean operator? Probably very few people. So, why the let down? Back then I would never associate JB with transatlantic flying - so, I’d personally view this type of additional flying as a bonus (at least for the super senior pilots who can bid it). It just surprises me because JB is clearly not a legacy with huge route variety - we are talking apples and oranges in terms of route profiles and I would expect people to know that when they signed up.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
04-10-2019, 04:05 PM
#354
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
It’s more of the way it was done. Throw a huge party and underwhelm everyone. Typical Jetblue.
I came to JetBlue fully knowing we would probably never fly across the pond, never cared and have no interest to begin with. I could have gone to other airlines if I really wanted to do that type of flying.
JetBlue can barely operate domestically and there are A LOT of markets in the US that JB should be flying to before London. I don't make those decisions, I just show up, fly the plane (late most of the time) and go home (late most of the time).
The point is JetBlew made a BFD about this event and built it up for several weeks and it was a terrible from what I heard. My exceptions with this company are pretty low, so I didn't walk away disappointed like some folks did apparently. I'm glad they found a way to spent money on some stupid party instead of rewarding employees with profit sharing.
04-10-2019, 04:49 PM
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On October 11, 2017, Southwest announced that it was going to start serving Hawaii. 17 months later, they are now flying to Hawaii.
Flying to Hawaii is a less complex process than flying to Europe. For starters, there aren't slot restrictions in Hawaii, nor are they dealing with the laws of other countries.
Anyone expecting JetBlue to be able to start service to the UK prior to 2021 did not have a realistic expectation.
Flying to Hawaii is a less complex process than flying to Europe. For starters, there aren't slot restrictions in Hawaii, nor are they dealing with the laws of other countries.
Anyone expecting JetBlue to be able to start service to the UK prior to 2021 did not have a realistic expectation.
04-10-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
On October 11, 2017, Southwest announced that it was going to start serving Hawaii. 17 months later, they are now flying to Hawaii.
Flying to Hawaii is a less complex process than flying to Europe. For starters, there aren't slot restrictions in Hawaii, nor are they dealing with the laws of other countries.
Anyone expecting JetBlue to be able to start service to the UK prior to 2021 did not have a realistic expectation.
Flying to Hawaii is a less complex process than flying to Europe. For starters, there aren't slot restrictions in Hawaii, nor are they dealing with the laws of other countries.
Anyone expecting JetBlue to be able to start service to the UK prior to 2021 did not have a realistic expectation.
04-10-2019, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Southwest wasn’t working on adding an additional fleet type while getting ready for Hawaii either, so 2021 for JB sounds about right.
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